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12-14-2018, 03:18 PM
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Re: Starter spins but not engageing flywheel,No Start?
Well it has started and been running great for awhile, but the symptoms are returning.So far starting, but not instantly like before. Can anyone explain the symptoms of a failing crank sensor? Tried search and couldn't get answers.Blocked Dvich so no more smart ass answers. Thanks for the help guys!
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12-16-2018, 03:48 AM
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Re: Starter spins but not engageing flywheel,No Start?
I would have assumed a crank sensor malfunction would mean the computer won't open the injectors, so no fuel & no start... but I'd love to hear more myself!
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12-16-2018, 03:56 AM
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Re: Starter spins but not engageing flywheel,No Start?
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I would have assumed a crank sensor malfunction would mean the computer won't open the injectors, so no fuel & no start... but I'd love to hear more myself!
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Hey Roberto! I ordered a new OEM sensor. When it failed starting, I didn't look at the speedo to see if I got a check engine light.My Ranger is getting close to 100K miles so it is a prime suspect. I'll try to remember to get back with you, as it might take a month or two before I get the results.Hoping someone has had the issue and could explain symptoms, as there is several causes.Next step, could be fuel pump?
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12-17-2018, 07:52 AM
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Re: Starter spins but not engageing flywheel,No Start?
got a fuel pressure gauge? else if you can borrow one, that might answer that question purdy quick!
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12-17-2018, 07:55 AM
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Re: Starter spins but not engageing flywheel,No Start?
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got a fuel pressure gauge? else if you can borrow one, that might answer that question purdy quick!
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Just got the crank sensor in today.Pretty cheap price $27 for oem at Rock Auto,will get it slammed on and go from there. Appreciate the help Bud!
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12-18-2018, 06:27 AM
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Re: Starter spins but not engageing flywheel,No Start?
I wanna say starter as others have said. Mine was doing the same thing until I replaced. Compared to factory one installed the one I had replaced with apparently had a modification to it that Ford at sometime updated on their replacement starters. I hope you find the answer though.
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12-18-2018, 06:43 AM
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Re: Starter spins but not engageing flywheel,No Start?
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I wanna say starter as others have said. Mine was doing the same thing until I replaced. Compared to factory one installed the one I had replaced with apparently had a modification to it that Ford at sometime updated on their replacement starters. I hope you find the answer though.
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I already bought a crank sensor,thought I would try it and I have read,if I read it right inertia switches once they fail it should be replaced as the problem re-occurs. Thanks for your help!
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12-23-2018, 11:12 PM
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Re: Starter spins but not engageing flywheel,No Start?
I never mentioned crank sensor.
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12-24-2018, 02:53 AM
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Re: Starter spins but not engageing flywheel,No Start?
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I never mentioned crank sensor.
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02-10-2019, 02:06 AM
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Re: Starter spins but not engageing flywheel,No Start?
Okay yesterday with truck in heated garage the truck spins and spins but no fire,I turned key off several times and try no start. I turned the key off walked to passenger side reached up, pushed the inertia switch rubber button down, get back in the truck and it started right up.Wire connector looked clean no heated up evidence, so assuming I need a new inertia switch.
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02-11-2019, 05:18 PM
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Re: Starter spins but not engageing flywheel,No Start?
Bob, sorry I am late to your problem but if the starter spins & will not crank over the engine as stated before by several it is the starter drive ( bendix) going bad. I had this problem on my last 2000 Ranger 4.0L & had the starter replaced & it was fine after that. Back in the day we used to pull the starter & just replace the starter drive. Bob BTW I see your post time from yesterday, what the heck are you doing up at 4.06am?. You should be sleeping at that time. I am up because I start work at that time.
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02-11-2019, 06:51 PM
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Re: Starter spins but not engageing flywheel,No Start?
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Bob, sorry I am late to your problem but if the starter spins & will not crank over the engine as stated before by several it is the starter drive ( bendix) going bad. I had this problem on my last 2000 Ranger 4.0L & had the starter replaced & it was fine after that. Back in the day we used to pull the starter & just replace the starter drive. Bob BTW I see your post time from yesterday, what the heck are you doing up at 4.06am?. You should be sleeping at that time. I am up because I start work at that time.
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Mike the starter was engaging,it just seemed like it wasn't, two times it has been the inertia switch. I take prescription sleeping pills ever night and still can only sleep 3-4 hours.I'm cutting my life short but can't find a answer for that.The truck is much easier to figure out than my sleeping problem. I'll be 70 this year. Old Fart! By the way, thanks for the reply!
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02-11-2019, 10:04 PM
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Re: Starter spins but not engageing flywheel,No Start?
Ok, I think if you start having these issues again, you can help us understand what is happening a little more. When you crank the truck over, does the front crank pulley spin or not? If not then its the starter, as others have said. if it is cranking but not firing, then the starter is not the issue and something else is wrong. If it is in fact not turning the engine, then there is no sensor, that would effect it, no wiring that would be the cause, only starter failure. What happens is the gear on the front of the starter gets stuck, and no longer kicks out into the teeth on the flywheel, or flex plate. this creates a whirring sound rather than a standard cranking sound. I think this is my understanding of what everyone is trying to say.
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02-12-2019, 02:06 AM
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Re: Starter spins but not engageing flywheel,No Start?
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Ok, I think if you start having these issues again, you can help us understand what is happening a little more. When you crank the truck over, does the front crank pulley spin or not? If not then its the starter, as others have said. if it is cranking but not firing, then the starter is not the issue and something else is wrong. If it is in fact not turning the engine, then there is no sensor, that would effect it, no wiring that would be the cause, only starter failure. What happens is the gear on the front of the starter gets stuck, and no longer kicks out into the teeth on the flywheel, or flex plate. this creates a whirring sound rather than a standard cranking sound. I think this is my understanding of what everyone is trying to say.
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Okay lets start over.Your reply will help someone in the future, I'm sure.The problem started at the Speedway gas station.Bought me a coffee and got in the truck stuck the key in and the starter whirled and whirled,turned key off and on several times, same result,no fire or start.I never looked at cluster for check engine light. Just had battery changed a few months earlier. I Called a repair shop, less than a mile from where I was at and requested a tow,he ran me by home,right up the street.They called about 3 hours later said it was fixed,I ask them what was wrong,they said everything checked out, but the inertia switch was tripped.The mechanic showed me where it was and explained it and how to tell if it trips with a little screwdriver.So all was well for about 4 months then the same sound and symptom came back, but would eventually start.Had the truck in my heated (man cave) garage and couldn't get it to start,took a flashlight and noticed the inertia was tripped again.Pushed red button down and it started right up.Now I am having difficulty finding a OEM inertia switch and part number.I believe I can swap it out,but not in a hurry, because I know how to simply fix it, if it occurs again. I could use some help running down the correct part number for a 2004 3.0 engine. Again thanks to all that helped me.
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02-14-2019, 01:07 PM
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Re: Starter spins but not engageing flywheel,No Start?
Bob, I just read on a Ford Truck forum that there was a recall on the inertia switches on 2004 Ford trucks. Here is the link to the site, see post #-5. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...04-ranger.html
Bob, is the one in this link what yours looks like?
https://www.amazon.com/Ford-5L2Z-934.../dp/B000NTI03C
or does it look like this?.
https://www.amazon.com/Ford-XF3Z9341...ag=googhydr-20
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