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Old 06-01-2014, 09:54 PM
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Unhappy Truck Overheated - Now What?

My 1998 Ranger, 4.0 L, 4-Door, 4x4 recently overheated - the Check Engine light came on, but the temperature warning did not. I was on the freeway, turned on the heater and slowed down. The temperature instantly went down (not quite to normal temp), but a few miles later the temperature went back up and cold air came out of the heating unit.

I managed to pull into a gas station just as smoke started coming out from under the hood.

The next morning, I rinsed off the engine, let that water dry and then tried adding water to the radiator - it's definitely leaking.

My plan - please let me know what you think:
1) Replace radiator, upper & lower hoses, thermostat, radiator cap
2) Remove and inspect water pump
***3) Inspect fan & fan clutch (not 100% sure what to look for with that)***
4) Get that all together, fill up with coolant/water and try to start the truck

My questions:
1) How do I know if my head gasket is torched (other than the fact that my truck won't start)?
2) Should I replace all the spark plugs? Is it common for them to foul when the engine gets hot? Is it possible to have a "false positive" for the head gasket if a plug is fouled?

I managed to get all the radiator & cooling parts cheap (minus the water pump at this point) but am very afraid if I need to replace the head gaskets - the truck has over 200K on it and I just rebuilt the tranny.

Anything else I am possibly missing?

Thanks for the input,
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Old 06-02-2014, 05:31 AM
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Spin the radiator fan. If you spin it and it's very easy to spin, almost no resistance, and when you do spin it, if it keeps spinning for a while on its own, the clutch is most likely out.

If the head-gasket is toast it'll blow white smoke while your engine is running and it'll be hard to start. Those are the usual symptoms.
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Old 06-02-2014, 06:15 AM
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Spin the radiator fan. If you spin it and it's very easy to spin, almost no resistance, and when you do spin it, if it keeps spinning for a while on its own, the clutch is most likely out.

If the head-gasket is toast it'll blow white smoke while your engine is running and it'll be hard to start. Those are the usual symptoms.
Don't panic yet. I will add to ^^^^^ his post. You need to find the leak. No need to throw anything at it yet. Does it crank? Maybe The Coil got wet?
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:43 AM
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Thank you for the tips thus far.

I removed the belt and the fan does have a little resistance, so that is a piece of good news.

Regarding the water pump, I did not pull it off, but removed the bottom hose and looked inside with a flashlight - I could see the impeller moving. Based on that, is the water pump likely okay?
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:44 AM
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thank you for the tips thus far.

I removed the belt and the fan does have a little resistance, so that is a piece of good news.

Regarding the water pump, i did not pull it off, but removed the bottom hose and looked inside with a flashlight - i could see the impeller moving. Based on that, is the water pump likely okay?
do you know where it is leaking from?
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:48 AM
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The radiator itself was leaking - somewhere along the bottom/right side. I don't think any other part of the system was leaking, but I am not positive.

There was a lot of corrosion around the thermostat and in the housing, but the thermostat itself looks clean.
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Old 06-02-2014, 11:55 AM
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The next morning, I rinsed off the engine, let that water dry and then tried adding water to the radiator - it's definitely leaking.

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so you are saying that the radiator is definitely leaking? not a hose or something else? the radiator?

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The radiator itself was leaking - somewhere along the bottom/right side. I don't think any other part of the system was leaking, but I am not positive.

There was a lot of corrosion around the thermostat and in the housing, but the thermostat itself looks clean.
just throw in a radiator, tstat and whatever hoses you have and see what happens. no need to do the waterpump unless you really want to.

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Old 06-10-2014, 03:54 PM
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Yes, definitely a leaky radiator. I just put it all together - new rad, hoses, hose clamps, thermostat, thermostat seal. The thermostat housing had quite a bit of corrosion, so I cleaned it up as best as I could.

I filled with it water only and the truck started right up. No obvious signs of water/smoke from the tailpipe and no leaks.

There was some residue (small, white chunks) present when I opened the radiator cap, but no oil.

At this point - should I drain and fill with 50/50 and test it around the neighborhood?

Thank you again for all the advice!
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Old 06-10-2014, 04:19 PM
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If the water looks clean then drain and fill with concentrated coolant and the remainder using distilled water. If the water is dirty drain and fill with water. Don't use 50/50. You never get all the coolant/water out when you do a flush like you're doing.
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