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Old 03-21-2013, 10:42 AM
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Huh? That's not why they made them big. They made them big so they could physically haul more stuff and more people and get more work done. Then the power and torque had to be increased as well.
Put the same v8 and drivetrain from a fullsize into a small truck and the small truck rapes the fullsize as far as performance goes.
The frames are a bit different on the bigger trucks and suspension is too
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Here's a question for you to ponder bigfisher, what necessitates a trucks large size to its towing capacity. Last time I checked frame strength, suspension capabilities, engine power and the transmissions torque and load rating had something to do with it also.

Just for an example look at the f-150 vs say the f-350. They are give or take the same size with the same setup: IE regular cab to regular cab. What's the difference between the two...? Oh it must be that whole engineering thing. If you designed and built a truck say the Rangers size with the same power, same suspension, same transmission could it not in essence perform the same "work"
No it couldnt because the weight of the bigger trucks give them an advantage against the bigger weight they are hauling/towing.

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Old 03-21-2013, 10:48 AM
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The frames are a bit different on the bigger trucks and suspension is too
True but that never stopped Ranger and S10 owners from dropping 5.0's and 350's into their trucks successfully
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:49 AM
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True but that never stopped Ranger and S10 owners from dropping 5.0's and 350's into their trucks successfully
I was talking about the towing hauling thing. Yea i'm putting a 302 in mine when the 4.0 goes. If i get a motor from a 99 expo its supposed to be plug n play

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Old 03-21-2013, 10:51 AM
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True but that never stopped Ranger and S10 owners from dropping 5.0's and 350's into their trucks successfully
Don't forget about the ls1 and the 302"s, I would like to see a new ranger with an ecoboost v6 that would be a fast truck xD.

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Old 03-21-2013, 10:52 AM
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I was talking about the towing hauling thing. Yea i'm putting a 302 in mine when the 4.0 goes. If i get a motor from a 99 expo its supposed to be plug n play

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Thats sweet, I hope to do the same. I don't think the rear end from a 5.0 Explorer is that much different than a Ranger with an 8.8, is it?
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:56 AM
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Thats sweet, I hope to do the same. I don't think the rear end from a 5.0 Explorer is that much different than a Ranger with an 8.8, is it?
I think they're the same. I haven't looked into it but I was hoping I could use the same rear end
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Old 03-21-2013, 10:58 AM
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Jesus Christ, I'm not saying this new lighter duty truck is / should replace the f-150+ all I'm trying to say is, the same work that was performed 30 to 40 years ago is still being performed today. Trucks of yester year were not as large as some of these new monsters.

The main thing that has changed over the coarse of that time period is the engineering. You can design a small truck to do anything a large truck can. Period end of discussion. Now is there any chance that a civil informative and interesting conversation can take place here. Or shall this pissing contest continue?
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:00 AM
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Don't forget about the ls1 and the 302"s, I would like to see a new ranger with an ecoboost v6 that would be a fast truck xD.

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The Ecoboost would be sweet in a ranger but it sure wouldnt be a cheap setup, eck the company doing the mod for the Raptor I saw on Spike Tv said they were buying the F150 ecoboost then doing a frame swap with a Raptor as it was cheaper to do that way.... Might be cheaper but without the tool that seem way too labor intensive. Id like to see the Escape 4cyl boosted one tho in a Ranger, crank the boost and have a go.
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:11 AM
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Jesus Christ, I'm not saying this new lighter duty truck is / should replace the f-150+ all I'm trying to say is, the same work that was performed 30 to 40 years ago is still being performed today. Trucks of yester year were not as large as some of these new monsters.

The main thing that has changed over the coarse of that time period is the engineering. You can design a small truck to do anything a large truck can. Period end of discussion. Now is there any chance that a civil informative and interesting conversation can take place here. Or shall this pissing contest continue?
Im sorry but you are wrong. You cant deny physics man, larger loads require a larger truck plain and simple. Full size trucks have bigger brakes, bigger axles, wheels, engines, drive-trains, frames ect ect because that is what is needed to control the loads they are capable of towing and carrying. There is no amount of engineering that can ignore the laws of physics.
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:13 AM
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Jesus Christ, I'm not saying this new lighter duty truck is / should replace the f-150+ all I'm trying to say is, the same work that was performed 30 to 40 years ago is still being performed today. Trucks of yester year were not as large as some of these new monsters.

The main thing that has changed over the coarse of that time period is the engineering. You can design a small truck to do anything a large truck can. Period end of discussion. Now is there any chance that a civil informative and interesting conversation can take place here. Or shall this pissing contest continue?
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Im sorry but you are wrong. You cant deny physics man, larger loads require a larger truck plain and simple. Full size trucks have bigger brakes, bigger axles, wheels, engines, drive-trains, frames ect ect because that is what is needed to control the loads they are capable of towing and carrying. There is no amount of engineering that can ignore the laws of physics.
boom now it ends. Common sense tells you exactly what Pat just explained.
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:28 AM
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They could theoretically produce a midsize with all the beefed up components and engine of a fullsize. Yeah it would be nearly the same price as a fullsize which many say is a total waste, but with the superior power to weight ratio and better gas mileage, it would be worth it for some people. There are alot of people out there who'd buy a truck like this if it existed.

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Old 03-21-2013, 11:34 AM
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They could theoretically produce a midsize with all the beefed up components and engine of a fullsize. Yeah it would be nearly the same price as a fullsize which many say is a total waste, but with the superior power to weight ratio and better gas mileage, it would be worth it for some people. There are alot of people out there who'd buy a truck like this if it existed.
100% true. Most people dont need that size of a truck. thats why a lot of dodge owners went with the dakota instead of the ram both had v8s
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:43 AM
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I guess what bigfisher and 01 ranger dont understand, and what JGiddy does understand... Is that you can engineer anything to accomplish anything. It's a matter of making the decision on what you'd like to accomplish given a certain set of guide lines. Just because a small truck that delivers everything a large truck does, has not been produced yet, does not mean its impossible to create. Use your Brain guys seriously. Large does not always mean strong. Heavy does not always mean better.
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:45 AM
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I guess what bigfisher and 01 ranger dont understand, and what JGiddy does understand... Is that you can engineer anything to accomplish anything. It's a matter of making the decision on what you'd like to accomplish given a certain set of guide lines. Just because a small truck that delivers everything a large truck does, has not been produced yet, does not mean its impossible to create. Use your Brain guys seriously. Large does not always mean strong. Heavy does not always mean better.
Are you really that stupid?

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True. Gotta love the double standards around here.

It's too bad they can't just make it look like this

assuming this is a concept car? modern svt lighting ? looks cool
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