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Old 01-04-2010, 12:29 PM
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No he invented the compression ignition engine. Explain yourself because I think you have a point beyond what you are stating.

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you cant invent somthing that has already been invented years before by stuart. and mr diesel was a regular visitor to stuarts workshop. diesel got the patent because of forced injection even tho

it did not work until years later when new technology alowed high pressure injection. give credit where credit is due
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Old 01-06-2010, 08:04 PM
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I'm new to the forum, this is my first post.

Here's my .02- If they make diesel ranger in the U.S., I also think Ford should make the option of buying JUST the diesel engine from them. That way, ranger owners with older trucks could [possibly] swap the diesel into their old Ranger and save the $300+/month payments on a new truck.
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I'm new to the forum, this is my first post.

Here's my .02- If they make diesel ranger in the U.S., I also think Ford should make the option of buying JUST the diesel engine from them. That way, ranger owners with older trucks could [possibly] swap the diesel into their old Ranger and save the $300+/month payments on a new truck.
then you'd need to change a whole bunch of stuff on the truck to make it run on diesel, not just the engine. you'd also have to go through the trouble of emissions tests and stuff. not as easy as just pulling the old engine out and putting a diesel in... plus, they wouldn't make nearly as much money that way
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Old 01-06-2010, 10:37 PM
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I'm new to the forum, this is my first post.

Here's my .02- If they make diesel ranger in the U.S., I also think Ford should make the option of buying JUST the diesel engine from them. That way, ranger owners with older trucks could [possibly] swap the diesel into their old Ranger and save the $300+/month payments on a new truck.
Cummins 4BT. And you don't have to mess with all the emission crap and it only needs like 2 wires hooked up to run.
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Old 01-08-2010, 03:22 PM
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Parts can be expensive for diesels though....injectorpump, glowplugs, oh and lets not forget the turbo the size of the engine itself on top of it. I have witnessed full on how bad ford has crammed 6.0l diesel engine (smaller and newer then the 7.3) into some of even the biggest trucks(etc. 2005 Excursion)..... its a nightmare, I have worked on them. Its PACKED to the brim..... I couldnt even imagine an engine with half the size fitting in a ranger..... I would have to be a smallll engine. And after it is all said and done would power output even be worth it?
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Parts can be expensive for diesels though....injectorpump, glowplugs, oh and lets not forget the turbo the size of the engine itself on top of it. I have witnessed full on how bad ford has crammed 6.0l diesel engine (smaller and newer then the 7.3) into some of even the biggest trucks(etc. 2005 Excursion)..... its a nightmare, I have worked on them. Its PACKED to the brim..... I couldnt even imagine an engine with half the size fitting in a ranger..... I would have to be a smallll engine. And after it is all said and done would power output even be worth it?
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The 4bt Cummins is a 3.9L straight 4-cylinder. There are a decent amount of people who have put them in RBVs. I have researched a little bit, and I found out that to fit the motor, the oil pan needs to be modified or the crossmember on ttb trucks. I have also read that the swap is easier to do if you have a body lift. Can't remember for sure why they said that anymore. A guy over on 4btswaps.com put one in a first gen explorer and got 30 some mpg with it. Newer models of the diesel have 130 horse and 355 ft. lbs. of torque. Yeh, I would take one in a heartbeat. And then run it on veggie oil.
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In my Freshman year of college, I sent a letter to Ford requesting them that they consider making a Ford Ranger SuperDuty! I told them to offer a small but very capable diesel in the Ranger and call it the Ranger SuperDuty. Heck, if they wanted, they could scale down the looks of the F250 Superduty to the size of a Ranger. I told them it would sell. They responded that "at Ford, they look at everything from a sales perspective and using demographics to decide things." Well it seems most all Ranger owners would like to see a diesel in a Ranger...so whats the problem. I say we get a petition of everyone on all these Ranger sites with names, and then write them another letter!
Better then that. Make a website dedicated too it with a forum. Give it some time to grow. THEN send an letter with the websites address.
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Old 01-09-2010, 01:30 PM
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Parts can be expensive for diesels though....injectorpump, glowplugs, oh and lets not forget the turbo the size of the engine itself on top of it. I have witnessed full on how bad ford has crammed 6.0l diesel engine (smaller and newer then the 7.3) into some of even the biggest trucks(etc. 2005 Excursion)..... its a nightmare, I have worked on them. Its PACKED to the brim..... I couldnt even imagine an engine with half the size fitting in a ranger..... I would have to be a smallll engine. And after it is all said and done would power output even be worth it?
not all diesels or packed that tight under the hood I have all kinds of room under my dodge 2500 with a 5.9 cummins. I will try to post a picture later Randy
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not all diesels or packed that tight under the hood I have all kinds of room under my dodge 2500 with a 5.9 cummins. I will try to post a picture later Randy
ya well a dodge is a helllll of lot different then a ford under the hood... especially if its a diesel....
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you cant invent somthing that has already been invented years before by stuart. and mr diesel was a regular visitor to stuarts workshop. diesel got the patent because of forced injection even tho

it did not work until years later when new technology alowed high pressure injection. give credit where credit is due
So who did invent the diesel then?
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So who did invent the diesel then?
me....
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Rudolf Christian Karl Diesel; March 18, 1858 – last seen alive September 29, 1913) was a European inventor and mechanical engineer, credited for the invention of the diesel engine. It is worth noting that English inventor Herbert Akroyd Stuart along with Charles Richard Binney had patented direct airless injection and compression ignition where combustion occurs isochorically in Improvements in Engines Operated by the Explosion of Mixtures of Combustible Vapour or Gas and Air (No. 7146) in May 1890 as well as a complete engine (No. 15,994) in October 1890. Diesel patented compression ignition where combustion occurs isobarically in 1892.

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So we really need to give them all credit. They all put in a piece of the puzzle that fit together. I'm still giving Diesel more credit because he made the first working version that somewhat resembles the diesel engine of our time. But you have to give credit to the other two men if they helped develop it to. I never looked deep into the history of it I just know I want a diesel Ranger lol.

The Powerstroke in current super dutys is a big boy, it takes a lot of space because of its v8 design. The Cummins B series whether in the 3.9 or the 5.9 liter engine are designed as an industrial motor, and the common industrial engines are inlines, not v configurations. So they don't take as much room. I've seen a lot of Super Dutys that don't have bodies on them while they are getting worked on lol.
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Do you have many diesel cars in the US? The roads over here are full of ford focus's and mondeo's with 2.0 Diesels in them, even the jaguar X-type has a Ford Diesel engine. My wifes got a toyota avensis diesel car which does about 55mpg, on a long run I've gotten 62mpg out of it which is great for a biggish car.
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