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Old 11-05-2011, 06:21 PM
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Default Heads up - Goodyear Gatorback serpentine belt

Not so much of a problem as much as a general heads up for anyone else using this product I am doing various maintenance to my Ranger over the next couple of weeks and today I changed out the serpentine belt. I have replaced serpentine belts several times so I now the routine. I could probably change out the Dayco v-cog on the 5.0 with my eyes closed, but today was the first time I changed out the belt on the Ranger. I got a Goodyear Gatorback the quiet belt# GTR-4060858 replacement because my old belt made squealing noises when it was cold or humid. I got the belt from Summit racing. Before I took the old belt off, I tugged on it to feel how tight it was, something I learned to check a long time ago when I first started tinkering with engines. I removed the old belt and of course it was longer than the new belt, due to stretching over time or so I thought. But heres the trick the new belt was much shorter, by about 4 or 5 inches. I called Summit to re-verify and they told me it was the proper belt, and just to be safe I cross-checked it on a few other parts sites, and every one of them listed the belt as an exact fit replacement. The 3.0 in my 2001 has a dummy pulley near the top of the engine that the belt goes under. In order to get the new belt to fit I had to bypass that pulley, as seen in the pic below. It was a tight fit as it should be when replacing an old belt with a new one. I may have been able to wrestle the new belt under that pulley if I had an 800 pound gorilla helping me, but it would have put way too much stress on the pulleys, just about guaranteeing some burned out pulley bearings. I checked the tension and it felt somewhat tighter than the old belt I removed, but not much. I checked and double checked the belt routing then started the engine. It ran fine and the belt was indeed much quieter. I took it out on the road and put it through the paces, and it ran fine. Matter of fact, the acceleration was smoother and felt more linear. I cranked the ac and had the headlights on high beam and the charge held fine, and I drove it long enough for the cooling system to cycle several times, and it actually ran a touch cooler than normal. And of course I kept the old belt just in case Im out and about and the new one goes down on me. I turned in hard several times without any power steering noises or loss of motions, so I think its going to work fine, but Im going to watch it closely for the first few days of use. Sh*t happens when you least expect it!.
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Old 11-05-2011, 06:38 PM
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Default Re: Heads up - Goodyear Gatorback serpentine belt

Ummm I wouldn't by pass that idler pulley. The reason that it is there is to make the belt bend around the ac compressor pulley more to give more contact area.
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Old 11-05-2011, 06:53 PM
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There's absolutely no way to make it fit. No amount of force can stretch that belt far enough to fit. I had a long 3/8th drive torque wrench with a 15mm socket on the tensioner pulley and had it as far as it would go. I didn't trust it either - won't completely until i've driven it for a few days.
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Old 11-05-2011, 06:56 PM
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Default Re: Heads up - Goodyear Gatorback serpentine belt

Sounds like the belt is too small. I think the right belt is GTR-4060855, not 4060858
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Old 11-05-2011, 07:02 PM
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Hmm, this is whre I got the part # from, as it lists it fitting the 3.0 with AC. Possibly I overlooked something? Then again the other sites listed the same belt. Wierd.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/GTR-4060858/

Actually, I just checked it and the belt I got is longer, the 4060855 is for a 3.0 without ac. This is getting stranger by the minute.
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Old 11-05-2011, 07:04 PM
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Sounds like the belt is too small. I think the right belt is GTR-4060855, not 4060858
the difference between a 4060858 and a 4060855 is 3 millimeters




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the belt that you need for that 4060882,
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Old 11-05-2011, 07:10 PM
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AHA! Blueranger you got it - that one specifies power steering with ac. I made the mistake of assuming since it was made for an 01 - all of which had power steering - that it would automatically be taken into consideration.

Thank you very much, you learn something new every day. Now to remove that belt and send it back.
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Old 11-05-2011, 07:12 PM
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AHA! Blueranger you got it - that one specifies power steering with ac. I made the mistake of assuming since it was made for an 01 - all of which had power steering - that it would automatically be taken into consideration.

Thank you very much, you learn something new every day. Now to remove that belt and send it back.
not a problem, thats what most of us are here for
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Can you help me with the size Gatorback belt that I need for my 1999 Ranger? Please reply, my truck info is below all the details and my email address.

Thank you in advance.


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Old 10-04-2015, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: Heads up - Goodyear Gatorback serpentine belt

This is a very old thread & bumping multiple 'Gatorback' threads & asking the same information in each makes things confusing for members

We appreciate your searching & it works good for research - but we prefer you dont ask the same question in multiple old threads.

Thanks!

PS - I've left the original thread you bumped 'open' & it is located here: Gatorback belt not fitting
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