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Old 05-31-2011, 05:10 AM
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Some ass monkey just now called me this morning on his way to work. He's a salesman at a local GM dealership, and he's been trying his best to get me to trade my 7 year old ranger for either a Colorado which is nothing more than a pile of shit IMO. Then he brings up the Canyon which aint no better at all and is to be discontinued in 2012 along with the Colorado. I keep telling him no I'm not interested but he still doesn't quit. I've had my ranger for 7 years now. I don't like any of GM's new products at all except for the new Buick Regal. I believe that the Ranger has won yet again. First the S10 gets beat by longevity. And now we can chalk up 2 more defeats that the ranger has obtained, The Colorado and Canyon. I think GM needs to restucture their business model alot more and come out with better products than what they have now and that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. GM screwed themselves when they got rid of the S10's and other popular models that sold on a frequent basis. Plus here's another thought, my Ranger has been paid off for over a year now. Why would I want to trade it in and have payments on something that won't be worth a damn and have no resale value? That's what got him to quit trying to sell me anything and I hanged up on him. I think they're getting desperate.
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Old 06-01-2011, 03:47 AM
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Default Re: GM's Colorado Vs. Ranger....

Based on my research when looking for a used truck, the Colorado and Canyon were not worth considering. I was looking at Ranger, Tacoma and (maybe) Frontier.
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Old 06-01-2011, 07:52 AM
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Default Re: GM's Colorado Vs. Ranger....

Colorado also got one of the worst safety ratings ever. One thing I like about Ford trucks over especially Chevy is that Ford still gives you a luxury feel inside your truck. Or a some what appealing look with 2 tone interior and all that just over all well done. Where as Chevy your pretty much stuck with a standard work truck feel. My friend has an s10 and everyone always agrees hands down that my ranger is better looking. It's awesome to see that the trucks are still being made over all these years and not canned like chevys
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:02 AM
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Have to disagree on the interior part. The Colorado has a nicer interior in terms of "luxury" feel, the Ranger's is definately more bare bones.
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Old 06-01-2011, 11:44 AM
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I grew up a chevy guy, and I never dreamed of owning a Ford of any kind... now I got the Ranger and last year I got a motorhome on a Ford chassis. I looked at S10s in the same age range as my ranger (99 ish) and felt that I got more for my money in the ranger. I love having the 2 back doors, that was a major draw to the Ranger for me (I dont plan on seating the kids back there much, but why not have the option when you need it?)
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Old 06-01-2011, 12:59 PM
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Have to disagree on the interior part. The Colorado has a nicer interior in terms of "luxury" feel, the Ranger's is definately more bare bones.
Not the ones I test drove. Plain looking was an under statement of the century. Both of the ones I test drove only had an am/fm radio in both.
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:04 PM
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i dont see how they are plain looking when compared to the Ranger. The Ranger's interior is incredibly plain and filled with dark colors and hard plastic. I like the Colorado's guage layout and digital display between the speedo and tach.
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:37 PM
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i dont see how they are plain looking when compared to the Ranger. The Ranger's interior is incredibly plain and filled with dark colors and hard plastic. I like the Colorado's guage layout and digital display between the speedo and tach.
Well, both have different aspects. The ones you're talking about are the ones of today. The one's I'm talking about are the very first ones to come out. The first ones that did come out were plain and they wanted to try something different and they failed. In my book, they should've kept the old S10 and S15 platforms around and offered an accessory line for each one. They also should've done a V8 option like they did with both of these models in which we're talking about with the S10 and S15. Let's face it Rick Wagoner or what ever the fuck his name is (former GM CEO), dropped the ball managing GM. They fucked themselves when they got rid of GM's most popular models. I may have to add him to my shit list over in the off-topic section which I just posted in there. I will say this, the interiors did get alot better in both of these models over the years. When they first came out they hadn't had a chance to "work out the bugs" yet. They were desperate when these models came out.
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Old 06-01-2011, 02:41 PM
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Only reason I would consider a colorado/canyon is for the crewcab and 5.3. Otherwise no thanks. However I would get a tacoma or frontier over it anyway.
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Old 06-01-2011, 02:55 PM
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Only reason I would consider a colorado/canyon is for the crewcab and 5.3. Otherwise no thanks. However I would get a tacoma or frontier over it anyway.
Those other models you mentioned choosing over the canyon and colorado aint exactly top picks either, but I hear you though. I think they should've put that engine (the 5.3) in the S10 after they bring it back. That model truck, and the Cavalier were extremely popular models, until they got rid of them. They don't sit at all on used car lots, or in junk yards either. Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't the S10 out do the 1500 for a good number of years before they jacked the price up to where it couldn't be bought?
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Old 06-01-2011, 03:15 PM
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I hate teh Colo/Canyon in every shape possible. that my perspective, plain and simple.

Like The great bon jovi once said in a famous song:

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Old 06-01-2011, 03:48 PM
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The S10 and Cavalier were garbage, why they sell so well I have no idea; its a shame really, and this coming from a GM fan.
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Old 06-01-2011, 04:50 PM
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I've always felt like the lower end vehicles from GM were junk while some of the higher end vehicles were pretty decent. The Cavalier is a perfect example. They were solid, reliable cars in the late 80's/early 90's, but then quality control dropped and they were super shitty from then on. Don't even get me started on the aveo....

I actually don't mind the older S10's. My friend had a GMC Sonoma High Rider and that was a really nice truck.
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Old 06-01-2011, 05:22 PM
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The problem with any cheap American based car brand is the cost of labor. To keep the price of the car low, but still paying the working men a fair salary means corners are going to be cut in material and build quality.
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The S10 and Cavalier were garbage, why they sell so well I have no idea; its a shame really, and this coming from a GM fan.
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I've always felt like the lower end vehicles from GM were junk while some of the higher end vehicles were pretty decent. The Cavalier is a perfect example. They were solid, reliable cars in the late 80's/early 90's, but then quality control dropped and they were super shitty from then on. Don't even get me started on the aveo....

I actually don't mind the older S10's. My friend had a GMC Sonoma High Rider and that was a really nice truck.
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The problem with any cheap American based car brand is the cost of labor. To keep the price of the car low, but still paying the working men a fair salary means corners are going to be cut in material and build quality.
You all make valid points that are true. I think that if we got rid of the UAW and from a business stand point, bring back those models that did so well they'd be affordable again, the quality control dept. would be revised with a new set of standards. I think that's where it started for GM and Chrysler for that matter. Here's the vehicle that I'd want to buy. I'd use Chrysler for anything concerning the interior, GM for parts and engines with 10 times more quality than they are now (it's gotten better but not much) and Ford for the body style, frame, and suspension as well as the rear ends. That's a vehicle that alot of people would want really. GM and Chrysler have pretty much gone down hill due to either "mis managment" or they got rid of quality and dropped too many popular models. Ford made the same mistake that GM did only they did it with model instead of several models, such as the Taurus. But other than that, that's one of the reasons that UAW will always be on my shit list. They bleed the automakers dry.
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