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Old 05-22-2011, 11:32 AM
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Damn ethanol. Shit is horrible. Even the 10%. I run injector cleaner through my truck a lot and every now and then stop and get marine fuel (no ethanol). I would just run off it but it's extremly high. I live at the beach so there are a lot of stations with marine fuel.
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:09 PM
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Interesting. I run both my '70 SS and '72 GS on nothing less than E85; preferably on E98.
how so? how is not having any kind of fuel economy?
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Interesting. I run both my '70 SS and '72 GS on nothing less than E85; preferably on E98.
I think your confusing E with octane. E85 is not the same as 85 Octane and there is no such thing as E98.

E85 means 85% Ethanol. Used in flex-fuel vehicles only. This has nothing to do with the octane rating of the fuel which typically ranges from 87 to 93. Most normal engines run properly on 87. High compression performance engines require a higher octane rating to prevent pre-ignition.
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I think your confusing E with octane. E85 is not the same as 85 Octane and there is no such thing as E98.

E85 means 85% Ethanol. Used in flex-fuel vehicles only. This has nothing to do with the octane rating of the fuel which typically ranges from 87 to 93. Most normal engines run properly on 87. High compression performance engines require a higher octane rating to prevent pre-ignition.
E85 has an octane of ~105 and E98 has an octane of ~115 and is about as close to pure ethanol as you can get.

E98 Ethanol

My '70 El Camino SS has around 12.0:1 compression and the timing advanced quite a bit. My '72 Buick GS455 Stage 2 is about 10.5:1 compression.
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Old 05-22-2011, 03:18 PM
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Do race cars run on alcohol?
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Old 05-22-2011, 03:40 PM
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This I did not know, I have to keep an eye out. Thank you
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Old 05-22-2011, 03:53 PM
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NASCAR is using Sunoco Green E15 in all 3 of its series starting for the 2011 season, and the IZOD Indycar is using E100 since 2007.
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Wow, there really is an E98? Where do you even get that. I can see why it would be useful for racing due to its inherently high octane rating. Most people who aren't using racing fuel get confused and think E85 is 85 octane and the E means economy.

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Old 05-22-2011, 04:11 PM
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Coming from the corn belt, we have a few ethanol plants.

The pumps near my parents place I can get E10, E85, B5 & B10. There are a couple stations in town that sell E98 & B100.

The local circle track has few E85/E98 classes running mostly stock Vortec 5.3Ls.
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Old 05-22-2011, 05:16 PM
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The reason that there's only one station in my area that does sell 100% pure gasoline with no ethanol is because the federal government and epa are fining the hell out of gasoline stations for running pure gasoline. This station has been around for years and is privately owned, but the epa is trying to fine them as we speak. To run pure ethanol which is nothing more than poisoned moonshine, you need higher compression ratio and you do have to advance the ignition timing a little bit for it to run properly. E85 is rated at 100 octane, and the E100 is rated to 116 octane. The only good thing about ethanol is it costs less to make and you have a high output of racing fuel and you can make it yourself with the proper permits. The bad thing about ethanol is that it burns too fast and the mpgs are shitty to say the least.
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Old 05-22-2011, 09:40 PM
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This site may help some of you to find non-ethanol gas:
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Nothing in Houston...I really do think 100% gas is illegal in Harris County Texas...
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Old 05-23-2011, 05:30 PM
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Nothing in Houston...I really do think 100% gas is illegal in Harris County Texas...
Yep that's what it's come across the country. Maybe we ought to deliver a fuck you of the week to the tree huggers or something, L.O.L. It's because of them going postal on the auto industry. The recently got their asses handed to them in a supreme court hearing concerning antique vehicles. The judges threw it out and told them to get their asses out of their court room. I would've payed money to see that. Thank you SEMA and the auto aftermarket for sticking up for our hobbies and respected professions.
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What were they trying to accomplish regarding antique autos? I would have liked to see that too.
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Old 05-23-2011, 07:47 PM
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Interesting. I run both my '70 SS and '72 GS on nothing less than E85; preferably on E98.
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Are you runnin alcohol carbs on those classics?

I've been told by a local racer, that you have to change any rubber gaskets, rubber lines, & any paper gaskets to poly ones, as the E85 will deteriate them & cause serious damage.
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Old 05-23-2011, 07:58 PM
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on my ranger gas cap it says no e20-e85 so i guess the newer ones can handle up to 20%?

fuck this ethanol shit and go back to REAL gas.

damn treehuggers.
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