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Old 06-09-2011, 08:00 PM
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There aren't loop holes and it is not illegal everywhere. You have you clue what you are talking about when it comes to the law. What you as an end user can do to your vehicle, including headlight modifications, is regulated by individual state's laws and most do not prohibit it.

Read this, the last time someone made this BS claim.
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Old 06-10-2011, 09:25 AM
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who cares if its illegal, all that matters is that putting hids in stock lenses makes for a shitty cutoff, end of story
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Old 06-12-2011, 07:01 AM
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Old 06-12-2011, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: Question about HID light???

don't put them in your stock headlight housings unless you want people coming from the other direction hitting you head on.
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Old 06-12-2011, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: Question about HID light???

You can put HIDs in your hedlights and aim them down. Still plenty of usable light, and wont blind the shit out of other people.

I honestly don't see why everyone bitches about the projection of HIDs out of a stock lense. Lights up everything and honestly doesn't look bad
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Old 06-13-2011, 04:16 PM
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Old 06-13-2011, 04:47 PM
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I done a thread on this not long ago. I did check my state's laws and found that they're illegal here in VA now, so I ruled that mod out. HID's if done right can look good, but alot of states have outlawed them due to complaints from other drivers, and too many accidents caused by them. The only mod I know of that is just about illegal in all states except for a select few, is the chassis lighting kits sold on the market today. There aint that many states left that allow them at all now. The DOT has a universal code, but each state regulates that code to an extent. Some states are different from others concerning this universal code in different ways. For example: Here in VA it's illegal to "run" a vehicle with a strait pipe exhaust, but it's not illegal to have one. Tennessee has no regulation concerning strait pipe exhuast systems. That's just a small example though. The point is that if it's not stamped "D.O.T Approved" then why take the chance on doing it, when you're not sure if it's legal or not.
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:12 PM
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Pretty sure I've already covered all of this already but....

Mainly because a "DOT Approved" stamp does not actually mean anything. The DOT does not test or approve anything. The DOT writes regulations that apply only to manufacturers, retailers, and shops and are contained in FMVSS section 108. The manufacturers, retailers, and shops are responsible for complying with said regulations. Companies that claim "DOT Approved" are doing so as a sales ploy to fool people into thinking the federal government says this is OK. There is nothing universal about it. It is what it is, and nothing more that that.

We as end users of a product are not bound by the DOT or FMVSS108. The regulations do not apply to us. There is no method to apply them to us. And there is no method to enforce said regulations on end users.

State law is what applies to us as end users. State laws do not and can not modify, change, or regulate FMVSS108. All states laws are different. All states different laws were written by the individual states politicians with input from their individual DMV and police agencies. Many states are very lenient and/or vague. Some are very strict and detailed. A few (maybe 4) have adopted FMVSS108 as their state law rather than writing their own (Oregon is an example I've used here many times).

Most states not do outlaw HID's at all. In fact, most states do not make mention of any specific technology or method. Most state laws were written before HID's even existed. They typically will specify what color is allowed and where. Also, most states do not outlaw underbody colored lights. See above regarding colors. Is is the color that gets people in trouble, not the fact that they are under the car.

Can you cite where in the VA law it says that HID's are illegal. I've read it up and down, and it isn't anywhere. They still talk about hand signaling your turns and lighting candles to see the road.
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:56 PM
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You can put HIDs in your hedlights and aim them down. Still plenty of usable light, and wont blind the shit out of other people.

I honestly don't see why everyone bitches about the projection of HIDs out of a stock lense. Lights up everything and honestly doesn't look bad
me neither. I will not be using them because they were recently outlawed here in my state. It goes into affect sometime this coming september, damn it I says. I'll have to get the D.O.T approved ones which they do check for in this state.
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Old 06-13-2011, 06:00 PM
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Except there is no such thing as DOT approved, so the state can not check for something that doesn't exist.

Apparently some VA inspection code (not motor vehicle code) makes mention of DOT approval markings. Someone might want to point out that their inspection regulations are based on fiction. Typical government operation.
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Old 06-13-2011, 06:12 PM
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Get these

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Old 06-13-2011, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: Question about HID light???

Thanks man. The HID light bulb inside the stock headlamps wouldn't work for me, so I'm leaning towards the projectors instead.
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Old 06-13-2011, 06:23 PM
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Based on the VA inspection regulations, you can't do a retrofit of projectors either. You're basically stuck with stock headlights and bulbs, or silverstars.
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Old 06-13-2011, 06:33 PM
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Well after looking I decided not to do this mod because I couldn't find a style that I like. I've been searching for HID projector head lamps and a body kit and so far it looks like i'll be using a Kustom made body kit after I get through designing it. Damn it I says.
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:10 PM
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Based on the VA inspection regulations, you can't do a retrofit of projectors either. You're basically stuck with stock headlights and bulbs, or silverstars.
Yeah I know but there are ways to get around it. Most of the time if they are aimed right and look right they will not investigate much further and when looking at the lens they say they are DOT approved and you cant really tell they have been modified.
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