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Old 03-17-2011, 04:51 PM
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I think you are forgetting about hydroelectricity? Only need water to power it, and how many damns are already built and running?
You got to think about the population of America as well.

It has to have people to maintain it plus not every city or state can get hydroelectric power.

"Hydroelectric Power like geothermal Power, is a very good alternative energy source. If the power plants could be put anywhere then they would be seen everywhere. The only problem is these plants can not be installed anywhere. Hydroelectric plants can only be installed in rivers with a fast moving current in order to make the plant worth while. Besides the limitations as to where the plants can be in they are an excellent source of energy. Hydroelectric is very cost competitive, it is renewable, and it produces a good amount of electricity with respect to the motion of the water current. So if there is a place where hydroelectric can be utilized then utilize it, but like geothermal plants hydroelectric plants can only be installed in places where the instalation would be worth while and would result in a profit over time resulting in a good investment rather than costing to much and not producing enough to make money back."



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I think you are forgetting about hydroelectricity? Only need water to power it, and how many damns are already built and running?
No I haven't forgotten about it at all. Or solar power. Or geothermal power. Or wind power. But none of those technologies can or ever will be able to gernerate enough power to make up for an elimination of oil and gas power. Those plants generate VERY LITTLE power. Yes they're all pretty and green. But they are too limited in capacity and already at maximum capacity. Guess what happens when the oil and gas plants go offline? The demand for power exceeds generation capacity immediately. The instability will cause the remaining plants to trip off too. Buh bye.
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Old 03-18-2011, 08:09 AM
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I agree with both of you but it does not mean that areas that have hydro plants will not function. All of the electricity near where I live is produced by hydro dams. We would be able to keep our area powered at certain levels if all fossil fuels were lost.
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Old 03-18-2011, 06:18 PM
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I agree with both of you but it does not mean that areas that have hydro plants will not function. All of the electricity near where I live is produced by hydro dams. We would be able to keep our area powered at certain levels if all fossil fuels were lost.
But what about the areas that don't?

If people know some people will still have electricity that means people will move to that area and then there you have it, the area will be overpopulated and crowded.

This will cause problems.
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But what about the areas that don't?

If people know some people will still have electricity that means people will move to that area and then there you have it, the area will be overpopulated and crowded.

This will cause problems.

I think we would be safe up here. Gets too cold and snowy for most people from the south. I mean no offense to anyone.
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Old 03-20-2011, 09:43 AM
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I think we would be safe up here. Gets too cold and snowy for most people from the south. I mean no offense to anyone.
Dude, trust me. People will want electricity still and it doesn't matter where they are from OR where they have to go to go get it.
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I think we would be safe up here. Gets too cold and snowy for most people from the south. I mean no offense to anyone.
Bullshit. If 90% of the county has no power, do you really think that people will be like "Ohhh, no I don't like the weather in MI, so I'll just stay here and die."? If you build it, they will come. And your pretty little electric grill will be instantly overloaded.

But even if you built a giant wall to keep everyone out and have your own little island of power, it doesn't change the fact that most people will be fucked.
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Old 03-21-2011, 08:29 AM
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I agree that most people in the country would not be able to support themselves.

How will they make it here? Walking from Florida? California? Texas?

If all fossil fuels are gone and no one has trasportation, how are they going to get to the U.P. of Michigan? I do not see people from the south making the trek up here on foot. Midwestern people would make it here, but then again I think most of them could become self sufficient.

I am not saying that people from other parts of the country could not be self sufficient.
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electric energy makes up less than 1% of the worlds auto consumption, wind and solar energy only 8%.. The world hit PEAK oil (consuming half the worlds oil reserves in the 80's), we are on the down hill of running out... at 7.6 Billion people (and growing 1million per year) on a planet designed for only 2 Billion people not driving oil powered vehicles... Scientist say we will completely deplete the oil reserve in 2026... prepare for super high prices, or none at all... Governments will save the last for them selves...
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And how long do you think your hydro plant will remain operational without trucks and trains to deliver equipment and parts? Without OIL to lubricate moving parts?

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Old 03-21-2011, 02:49 PM
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electric energy makes up less than 1% of the worlds auto consumption, wind and solar energy only 8%.. The world hit PEAK oil (consuming half the worlds oil reserves in the 80's), we are on the down hill of running out... at 7.6 Billion people (and growing 1million per year) on a planet designed for only 2 Billion people not driving oil powered vehicles... Scientist say we will completely deplete the oil reserve in 2026... prepare for super high prices, or none at all... Governments will save the last for them selves...
I call BS on running out of oil.


The US has oil BUT they don't want to drill and get it! They rather get it from other countrys and go to war for "freedom" yet truthfully they just trying to get ahold of the oil wells of other countrys so they can get more $$.

It's simple. Every country you see the US go to war with has oil wells. Now the Libya crap is goin on and we probably will have a war with them (they have oil) but the US government and Allies will say that guy is killing his people YET people are killing other Africans in Sudan YET you don't see the US go to war with them because after all...there is really no oil wells there...just a bunch of starving Africans with Aids,etc. Why would the US government want to go there?


Anyways.


There is alot of OIL. They just have to put the money out and drill it AND BE MORE CAREFUL AND LESS CARELESS AND MAKE SURE NO OIL SPILL WILL HAPPEN AND PREVENT IT IN THE FUTURE!

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I agree that most people in the country would not be able to support themselves.

How will they make it here? Walking from Florida? California? Texas?

If all fossil fuels are gone and no one has trasportation, how are they going to get to the U.P. of Michigan? I do not see people from the south making the trek up here on foot. Midwestern people would make it here, but then again I think most of them could become self sufficient.

I am not saying that people from other parts of the country could not be self sufficient.
People will do it. They will fish and do something to have enough to eat til they reach there. MANY WILL DIE but there will be alot still being able to reach your area.
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