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Old 12-15-2010, 05:05 PM
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Hello all. I'm a new guy here. I tow a 2000# trailer average 75 miles 150 days a year. I plan to buy a 2011 Ranger 4x4. I like manual transmissions. Anybody here have experience to share. Is manual trans a good idea? Thanks, Ken
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:15 PM
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auto trans is prefered for towing with a Ranger.
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Old 12-16-2010, 02:08 AM
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I have about 2000mi. towing my boat(about 1300lb.) with my 2WD, 4 banger/stick combo. Have no issues, even pulling the boat out up the launch ramp. From what I read, the 4 cyl. M50D has a lower first gear ratio than the V6 version, but the extra torque of the 6 should easily compensate for it.
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Old 12-21-2010, 09:11 AM
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Every truck or SUV towing capacity listing I've run across lists autos with higher towing capacities. If the 2,000 pound figure is fully loaded trailer, then you might be fine with a manual trans. When you go check out the truck, browse through the owner's manual to see what the tow capacity is for that particular configuration.
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Old 12-21-2010, 09:17 AM
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Why would you want an auto for towing?
I personally would rather have a manual.
I pull a decent size trailer with my dad's truck and he has an auto in it. When im on the highway I can't use cruse controll because it allways down shifts when i hit a bridge that goes over a city street. Any slight hill causes it to down shift and that is not only wearing out the trans but it kills mpgs.

If it had a manual I could put it in fith and leave it there and not have it downshifting...
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Old 12-21-2010, 11:42 AM
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Autos typically have a greater towing capacity. Down-shifts don't harm an automatic, they do it all the time. If you're cruising along a flat surface when towing a trailer, you can leave overdrive on, but if you're going over hills the transmission will shift out of OD so it's best to turn OD off.

There is a big difference between the manual transmissions used in say an F-250 and the manual transmission used in a Ranger. If you're going to be towing with a Ranger, the auto is definitely preferred, but if you're driving a SuperDuty and prefer manual then you're not going to sacrifice a lot of tow capacity if any. The manual trans used in a SuperDuty is built with towing in mind.

The M50D manual transmission variants that have been used in the Ranger are not built with towing in mind. They've made appearances in older Cougars, Thunderbirds and even the Aerostar. The 4R44E and 5R55E automatics that are available for the Ranger would do much better pulling a load.

And gas mileage will always suffer when towing. That's why folks pulling big fifth wheels usually start with or end up going to a diesel truck. The same F-250 with a 5.4 compared with a 6.4L diesel will always result with the gasser getting significantly less mileage than a diesel, enough to off-set the higher cost of diesel.

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Old 12-21-2010, 11:46 AM
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engine... rear axle ratio... maximum GCWR(Lbs)..... maximum trailer weight (Lbs)

4x2 manual transmission regular cab with 6ft box
2.3 all 4,800 1,693
2.5 all 4,800 1,594
3.0
non torsion bar 6,000 2,686
torsion bar 6,000 2,553
4.0
non torsion bar 7,000 3,613
torsion bar 7,000 3,481

Regular cab with 7 ft box
2.3 all 4,800 1,635
2.5 all 4,800 1,536
3.0 all 6,000 2,630
4.0 all 7,000 3,558

supercab
2.3 all 4,800 1,496
2.5 all 4,800 1,397
3.0
non torsion 6,000 2,498
3.0
torsion bar 6,000 2,365
4.0
non torsion 7,000 3,421
4.0
torsion bar 7,000 3,289

4x4 manual transmission Regular cab with 6ft box
3.0 all 6,000 2,433
4.0 all 7,000 3,362

regular cab with 7ft box
3.0 all 6,000 2,375
4.0 all 7,000 3,308

supercab
3.0 all 6,000 2,234
4.0 all 7,000 3,159


4x2 automatic transmission regular cab with 6ft box
2.3 all 5,500 2,297
2.5 all 5,500 2,198
3.0
non torsion 7,500 4,145
3.0
torsion bar 7,500 4,012
4.0
non torsion 9,500 6,074
4.0
torsion bar 9,500 5,942

regular cab with 7ft box
2.3 all 5,500 2,246
2.5 all 5,500 2,147
3.0 all 7,500 4,088
4.0 all 9,500 6,018

supercab
3.0
non torsion 7,500 3,956
3.0
torsion bar 7,500 3,827
4.0
non torsion 9,500 5,885
4.0
torsion bar 9,500 5,757

4x4 with automatic transmission regular cab with 6ft box
3.0 all 7,500 3,897
4.0 all 9,500 5,822

regular cab with 7ft box
3.0 all 7,500 3,836
4.0 all 9,500 5,759

supercab
3.0 all 7,500 3,703
4.0 all 9,500 5,622


4X2 Automatic trans, 4.0 non torsion bar regular cab 6ft box = best for heaviest towing = 6,074 lbs
4X2 manual trans, 2.5 non torsion bar super cab = least capable for towing = 1,397 lbs.
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Old 12-21-2010, 12:00 PM
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In a Ranger, auto>manual for towing period. I love the way my truck tows.
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Old 12-22-2010, 08:34 PM
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Many thanks too all for your input. I ended up with an automatic and it tows just fine. Initially, another concern was stopping the combination ( no brakes on the trailer ). Doesn't seem to be any problem there either. trailer guy says he can put electric brakes on for $700 if I think I need them. Thanks again.
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Old 12-23-2010, 06:53 AM
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Default Re: trailer towing

Check with your state DOT. Some states require trailer brakes on trailers of a certain weight, and 2,000 pounds is a common cut-off. It not only makes the whole rig safer, but reduces the wear and tear on your Ranger brakes. Replacing pads and drums on trailer brakes is far less expensive than pads and rotors on your Ranger.

Glad to hear the Ranger pulls nicely for you. Good luck and happy towing.
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