Originally Posted by Chris
There is no way that 5k you can get a diesel super duty unless it is maybe base, and if it is it would be a bonestock 2WD super duty with a clutch driven fan, and the old style 6.4L ie one they are trying to get rid of to make for the new 2011. As for Ford F150's they have 4 new engines that are coming out. The base option is a 3.7L V6 pushing 306. The next option is a 385 HP 5.0L V8, the next one is the 6.2L V8 pushing 411 HP and 434lb's of torque, then for 2000 more you can get a dual turbo 3.5L Ecoboost pushing 365 HP and 420lb's of torque, and that is at idle, all the while out of each of these new engines you get a nice mpg rating.
As for 27k for a Ranger. Thats the sticker price. They will come down a few grand off each. Either way that F150 is probably a 2WD Economy with the 4.6L V8 in it, and again its a 2010 that they are trying to get rid of. I worked a dealership and I know when they are trying to get rid of them. A FX4 F150 with 3.73 Gears and all the goodies can get expensive, like 35k on up, but then again if you're gonna spend 35k then why not go for the Raptor and dish out 38k.
Most likely the F150 you speak of had 3.55 rear end which is okay for pulling but not ideal, and cloth seats, and probably just a single cab. Ford can lower the price of the Ranger to match some of the base model F150's because at the end of the day its a matter of what someone wants.
Heres a link to what Ford has in store for the new F150's. I am excited myself. I mean come on a 365 HP out of a V6 and that being at idle.
F150's are not all big and bulky. Remember the svt lightnings. A base 2WD F150 wasn't that big. My old 04 Ranger sit up higher then some F150's... Ranger was a great truck for me, but when you have a kid and got a single cab ranger there is not much room for My son, My girl, and I in the truck, and even if I had a Extended cab still not a lot of room.
As for playing and having fun the F150 and Ranger are both gonna do what they were meant to, and Ford has a reputation for making one helluva a tough truck.
And to throw out there on the Chevrolet comment. CHEVY is the most garbage company to ever touch a vehicle. GM in general is. There isn't one thing in the world that ever appeared to me about a junky ass chevy. I can point out one major issue with GM's vehicles and this goes back to the old Oldsmobiles, and big body Monte Carlos and Muscle cars that GM made back in through the 60's to the 90's. This problem is still here today. It is not uncommon to drive around and see either a tail light burnt out in a GM product mostly the Silverado and GMC's, or the front day time running light burnt out on either the drive or passenger side. I have buddy's that own 04's, and that includes my dads 04 to. They constantly are burning head lights out, and my dad's truck with 123k on it has a issue with the temp gauge. When ehs driving it shoots all the way down to nothing, and then pops back up to where its suppose to be, not before knocking all the power out to the truck. I call the Silverado's that have those lights out, the winkers. Thats exactly what it looks like. As for Ford's F150's body style. Hey atleast it doesn't looking a god damn football player with shoulder pads like the Silverado's do. God that new silverado truck is ugly as hell. GM is always trying to out do Ford. Its awful funny in every commercial they never mention Ford now days. Just mention Dodge and Toyota, because how could you tell a lie that your truck is better then Ford, at hauling a certain number of pay load when in reality its defiantly NOT. GM's drum brakes was a rather stupid idea. However as a F150 owner now, I do note that the Ford F150's from 04-06 have a issue with the spark plugs getting stuck and even breaking off in the heads, costing a lot of money to get it fixed, because it requires a special tool. The other problem is the infamous 5.4L tick that is caused by the cam phaser's. The other issue is the F150's warp the rotors or at least that seems to be what a lot of people have had issues with.
My 2011 Ranger: 4 door super cab, 4wd, xlt package...
etc. Has everything "BUT" cd changer, chrome package,
bed liner, remote start. (Maybe one other thing I'm forgetting?)
Anyhow the sticker with freight was
$27995.00 . Then add prep, tax and tags. Bottom line
was my trade in, kept 1k of rebates and paid $20,646.00
for the truck. Oh, they included painting my camper and
installing it on my Ranger. (Was a nice paint job.)
No one ever replied as to why Ford went back to drums
on their new global truck? But yeah, drums sucky
As for GM, Government Motors or as I call them,
g*d d*amn motors, I despise that company with a purple
passion. They stand for practically every last thing that
Ford doesn't! Well their philosophy is different.
As for their problems, here's a few that GM hid and
swept under their rug. Bad auto transmissions by the
tens of thousands. Mis-matched transmissions in
engine, model combos. The quick make over of a gas
engine to diesel. Engines gave problems the whole time.
Bad paint. Rusting bodies. Engines wearing out
prematurely. Water leaks by the tens of thousands.
Covering up sub safety standards. Shoddy interiors,
not holding up. Electrical problems, including the lights.
(Again a problem tens of thousands of vehicles.)
And I can go on......
GM was founded by the original people who first
funded Henry Ford. Ford fell out with them over
the Cadillac. The investors wanting an expensive car
that made big money. They also didn't give a shit about
quality and Henry was nuts over quality! They parted,
with the Cadillac as the first brand of the future GM.
Then comes along Harry Chevrolet. Another greedy
bastard who shared the same or similar philosophy
as the investors. The investors needed a good
auto engineer and so Chevrolet was made a partner.
Chevrolet brought greed to new heights by starting
the advertising which made people feel guilty over
having a vehicle a couple years old. He started the
yearly facelifts of vehicles to drive home the fact that
it was new and improved and anyone not trading
for a new Chevy was "behind the times".
Yes, those fools were a match for each other!
And ole man Henry would only shake his head at
what he perceived as greedy non-sense...
Sure is odd how Ford can be singled out for the
most minor of flaws and hung for them while GM
gets away with theft and more!
As I said the philosophies of the 2 companies are
completely opposite. And at least I can take a little
heart and feel better over the fact that the philosophy
of Henry at least survives enough today at Ford, so
I have been able to smile and say Henry was right.
That my philosophy is also right, because of
g*d d*mn motors bankruptcy proves they are insanely
wrong! Did I tell anyone how bad I hate GM?