Ford Ranger Forum - Forums for Ford Ranger enthusiasts!

Go Back   Ford Ranger Forum - Forums for Ford Ranger enthusiasts! > >
Forgot Password? Join Us!

Welcome to Ford Ranger Forum

View Poll Results: which hid setup.
35w 8ks in both 9 42.86%
55w in heads, 35w in fogs 8 38.10%
other (please post) 4 19.05%
Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread

  #16  
Old 11-09-2010, 09:46 AM
Jp7 Jp7 is offline
DISABLE ADBLOCK: LOLZ
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,438
Default Re: ordering hids tonight. quick question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4evermodding View Post
so no one ever bought the aftermarket projectors from bay or where ever and did the hid mod
You might "read schematics" but you sure don't read posts.

I have morimoto projectors with HID in my ranger.
__________________
Looking for a professional retrofitter to add HIDs or LEDs to your Ranger? PM me if your looking to have work done, and have cash to spend.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FireRanger View Post
I'm dying to see this at night. Someone go tell the sun to give up already.
Quote:
Originally Posted by beef08 View Post
Your the man, you bring our dreams to a reality within the lighting spectrum
Quote:
Originally Posted by BCobe View Post
Jp7 you always do AMAZING work! Hats off to you sir
Quote:
Originally Posted by FireRanger View Post
People so often confuse "hating" with "knowing better".
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11-09-2010, 10:03 AM
4evermodding 4evermodding is offline
Modding To Continue >>>>
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,114
Default Re: ordering hids tonight. quick question.

Actually young man, you don't seem to read, I have seen your threads when you started your projects and have seen your threads again to see any update, I am in law enforcement and altering your halogen to projectors in my state is illegal, again I was asking about the one piece design projector headlights not the retrofit stock conversion.




Quote:
Originally Posted by Jp7 View Post
You might "read schematics" but you sure don't read posts.

I have morimoto projectors with HID in my ranger.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 11-09-2010, 10:07 AM
stephen stephen is offline
Ford Ranger Driver
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 3,274
Default Re: ordering hids tonight. quick question.

if your a cop whats the law on hids in CA? just curious. cause i read in some states their illegal. and since i figured since its california it probably is here.
__________________
2008 Sport Black 3.0 V6 2WD.
Build Thread

Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 11-09-2010, 10:24 AM
edgerider2002 edgerider2002 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,680
Default Re: ordering hids tonight. quick question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by stephen View Post
if your a cop whats the law on hids in CA? just curious. cause i read in some states their illegal. and since i figured since its california it probably is here.
anything is legal until you get caught haha

and good question im curious. and what about tint? ive heard five different answers from five different cops lol
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 11-09-2010, 10:28 AM
Jp7 Jp7 is offline
DISABLE ADBLOCK: LOLZ
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,438
Default Re: ordering hids tonight. quick question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4evermodding View Post
Actually young man, you don't seem to read, I have seen your threads when you started your projects and have seen your threads again to see any update, I am in law enforcement and altering your halogen to projectors in my state is illegal, again I was asking about the one piece design projector headlights not the retrofit stock conversion.
The "ebay" projectors you are talking about do not provide a dot certified cutoff. they actually don't provide a cutoff at all - they provide a smiley face.

My morimotos on the other hand are designed for H1 HID and have a street-legal DOT cutoff.

Professional retrofitters are held to the same standards that OEMs are, so my lights are perfectly legal and will pass all DOT and SAE testing. (with the exception that I've removed my amber reflectors)

And I'm not young. Wish I was.
__________________
Looking for a professional retrofitter to add HIDs or LEDs to your Ranger? PM me if your looking to have work done, and have cash to spend.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FireRanger View Post
I'm dying to see this at night. Someone go tell the sun to give up already.
Quote:
Originally Posted by beef08 View Post
Your the man, you bring our dreams to a reality within the lighting spectrum
Quote:
Originally Posted by BCobe View Post
Jp7 you always do AMAZING work! Hats off to you sir
Quote:
Originally Posted by FireRanger View Post
People so often confuse "hating" with "knowing better".
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 11-09-2010, 10:39 AM
Tom Tom is offline
Ranger Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 6,829
Default Re: ordering hids tonight. quick question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by stephen View Post
if your a cop whats the law on hids in CA? just curious. cause i read in some states their illegal. and since i figured since its california it probably is here.
There is no law against HIDs (in CA). There are more generic laws about having proper lighting, light output, etc., and this is where you can potentially be cited.

Quote:
Originally Posted by edgerider2002 View Post
anything is legal until you get caught haha

and good question im curious. and what about tint? ive heard five different answers from five different cops lol
Tint is an easy one. The California penal code states ANY tint is illegal on the side mirrors. Rear mirrors and side mirrors can be as dark as you want.
__________________
2006 Ford Ranger Sport 4.0 2WD on 32x11.50R15s
-3" Doetsch Spindle Lift


Using the forum:
How to Post on the Forum
Creating a signature (do this before asking any questions)
Upload an Avatar (image of your Ranger)
How to Post Pictures on the Forum
Switch the site layout: Light Theme or Dark Theme

Things to do:
Participate in Truck of the Month
Participate in the Ranger Photo Contest
Participate in the Non-Automotive Photo Contest
Become a Site Contributor
Shop at the FordRangerForum.com Store
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 11-09-2010, 10:55 AM
4evermodding 4evermodding is offline
Modding To Continue >>>>
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,114
Default Re: ordering hids tonight. quick question.

No cop; retired one though, Now I'm just a Park Ranger (bully) that carries a gun, lol Same thing just without the inner city frustrations, Hids are illegal period, But most folks wont have a problem because most LE don't know how to tell the difference, of course unless you are a young sooped up ricer, lol

Quote:
Originally Posted by stephen View Post
if your a cop whats the law on hids in CA? just curious. cause i read in some states their illegal. and since i figured since its california it probably is here.
Yep you said, however I don't condone anything illegal when you are breaking the law. You heard five different stories about HIDs, can you please elaborate.

Quote:
Originally Posted by edgerider2002 View Post
anything is legal until you get caught haha

and good question im curious. and what about tint? ive heard five different answers from five different cops lol
Okay understand, so the bay projectors are just for looks, good to know; By Ca state law you cannot alter the inside housing of your stock lighting, actually all aftermarket hid are illegal in all states, here is the laws and yea again still illegal here.

So with your method you may be right, if done right, and it seems you have done so.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/glare.html

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jp7 View Post
The "ebay" projectors you are talking about do not provide a dot certified cutoff. they actually don't provide a cutoff at all - they provide a smiley face.

My morimotos on the other hand are designed for H1 HID and have a street-legal DOT cutoff.

Professional retrofitters are held to the same standards that OEMs are, so my lights are perfectly legal and will pass all DOT and SAE testing. (with the exception that I've removed my amber reflectors)

And I'm not young. Wish I was.
----------

Their are trying to update these laws, this is the reason why their is so much confusion and why it's difficult to win or loose a case when cited, The laws are not detailed enough and of course this is one reason why most Officers wont ticket; and that's if you are lucky. However what I posted is good info for those who inquire.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom View Post
There is no law against HIDs (in CA). There are more generic laws about having proper lighting, light output, etc., and this is where you can potentially be cited.


Tint is an easy one. The California penal code states ANY tint is illegal on the side mirrors. Rear mirrors and side mirrors can be as dark as you want.
Don't forget those who have some sort of visual impairment, here is the details.

Regarding a doctors note...

Read the CVC! It states (I'm paraphrasing) that you CAN put some type of tint on the front windows with a doc note, BUT it must be easily removable and not be used at night.


CVC 26708 paragraph 10:
Sun screening devices meeting the requirements of Section 26708.2 installed on the side windows on either side of the vehicle's front seat, if the driver or a passenger in the front seat has in his or her possession a letter or other document signed by a licensed physician and surgeon certifying that the person must be shaded from the sun due to a medical condition, or has in his or her possession a letter or other document signed by a licensed optometrist certifying that the person must be shaded from the sun due to a visual condition. The devices authorized by this paragraph shall not be used during darkness.

CVC 26708.2
Sun screening devices permitted by paragraph (10) of subdivision (b) of Section 26708 shall meet the following requirements:

(a) The devices shall be held in place by means allowing ready removal from the window area, such as a frame, a rigid material with temporary fasteners, or a flexible roller shade.

(b) Devices utilizing transparent material shall be green, gray, or a neutral smoke in color and shall have a luminous transmittance of not less than 35 percent.

(c) Devices utilizing nontransparent louvers or other alternating patterns of opaque and open sections shall have an essentially uniform pattern over the entire surface, except for framing and supports. At least 35 percent of the device area shall be open and no individual louver or opaque section shall have a projected vertical dimension exceeding 3/16 inch.

(d) The devices shall not have a reflective quality exceeding 35 percent on either the inner or outer surface.

Last edited by 4evermodding; 11-09-2010 at 11:53 AM. Reason: fixed the link
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 11-09-2010, 10:56 AM
4evermodding 4evermodding is offline
Modding To Continue >>>>
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,114
Default Re: ordering hids tonight. quick question.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26708.htm

V C Section 26708 Material Obstructing or Reducing Driver x2019 s View

Material Obstructing or Reducing Driver's View

26708. (a) (1) A person shall not drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied upon the windshield or side or rear windows.

(2) A person shall not drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied in or upon the vehicle that obstructs or reduces the driver’s clear view through the windshield or side windows.

(3) This subdivision applies to a person driving a motor vehicle with the driver's clear vision through the windshield, or side or rear windows, obstructed by snow or ice.

(b) This section does not apply to any of the following:

(1) Rearview mirrors.

(2) Adjustable nontransparent sunvisors that are mounted forward of the side windows and are not attached to the glass.

(3) Signs, stickers, or other materials that are displayed in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver, signs, stickers, or other materials that are displayed in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the rear window farthest removed from the driver, or signs, stickers, or other materials that are displayed in a 5-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield nearest the driver.

(4) Side windows that are to the rear of the driver.

(5) Direction, destination, or ( )1 terminus signs upon a passenger common carrier motor vehicle or a schoolbus, if those signs do not interfere with the driver’s clear view of approaching traffic.

(6) Rear window wiper motor.

(7) Rear trunk lid handle or hinges.

(8) The rear window or windows, if the motor vehicle is equipped with outside mirrors on both the left- and righthand sides of the vehicle that are so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway through each mirror for a distance of at least 200 feet to the rear of the vehicle.

(9) A clear, transparent lens affixed to the side window opposite the driver on a vehicle greater than 80 inches in width and that occupies an area not exceeding 50 square inches of the lowest corner toward the rear of that window and that provides the driver with a wide-angle view through the lens.

(10) Sun screening devices meeting the requirements of Section 26708.2 installed on the side windows on either side of the vehicle's front seat, if the driver or a passenger in the front seat has in his or her possession a letter or other document signed by a licensed physician and surgeon certifying that the person must be shaded from the sun due to a medical condition, or has in his or her possession a letter or other document signed by a licensed optometrist certifying that the person must be shaded from the sun due to a visual condition. The devices authorized by this paragraph shall not be used during darkness.

(11) An electronic communication device affixed to the center uppermost portion of the interior of a windshield within an area that is not greater than 5 inches square, if the device provides either of the following:

(A) The capability for enforcement facilities of the Department of the California Highway Patrol to communicate with a vehicle equipped with the device.

(B) The capability for electronic toll and traffic management on public or private roads or facilities.

(12) A portable Global Positioning System (GPS), which may be mounted in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver or in a 5-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield nearest to the driver and outside of an airbag deployment zone, if the system is used only for door-to-door navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated ( )2.

(c) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), transparent material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the topmost portion of the windshield if the following conditions apply:

(1) The bottom edge of the material is at least 29 inches above the undepressed driver's seat when measured from a point 5 inches in front of the bottom of the backrest with the driver's seat in its rearmost and lowermost position with the vehicle on a level surface.

(2) The material is not red or amber in color.

(3) There is no opaque lettering on the material and any other lettering does not affect primary colors or distort vision through the windshield.

(4) The material does not reflect sunlight or headlight glare into the eyes of occupants of oncoming or following vehicles to any greater extent than the windshield without the material.

(d) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), clear, colorless, and transparent material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the front side windows, located to the immediate left and right of the front seat if the following conditions are met:

(1) The material has a minimum visible light transmittance of 88 percent.

(2) The window glazing with the material applied meets all requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 205 (49 C.F.R. 571.205), including the specified minimum light transmittance of 70 percent and the abrasion resistance of AS-14 glazing, as specified in that federal standard.

(3) The material is designed and manufactured to enhance the ability of the existing window glass to block the sun's harmful ultraviolet A rays.

(4) The driver has in his or her possession, or within the vehicle, a certificate signed by the installing company certifying that the windows with the material installed meet the requirements of this subdivision and the certificate identifies the installing company and the material’s manufacturer by full name and street address, or, if the material was installed by the vehicle owner, a certificate signed by the material’s manufacturer certifying that the windows with the material installed according to manufacturer’s instructions ( )3 meet the requirements of this subdivision and the certificate identifies the material’s manufacturer by full name and street address.

(5) If the material described in this subdivision tears or bubbles, or is otherwise worn to prohibit clear vision, it shall be removed or replaced.

Amended Sec. 1, Ch. 413, Stats. 2008. Effective January 1, 2009.
Amended Sec. 181, Ch. 140, Stats. 2009. Effective January 1, 2010.
The 2009 amendment added the italicized material, and at the point(s) indicated, deleted the following:
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 11-09-2010, 10:56 AM
4evermodding 4evermodding is offline
Modding To Continue >>>>
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,114
Default Re: ordering hids tonight. quick question.

I know it's a confusing situation and their needs to be some revise. Their working on it; I promise you that.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 11-09-2010, 11:03 AM
Tom Tom is offline
Ranger Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 6,829
Default Re: ordering hids tonight. quick question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4evermodding View Post
Here's the NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) article of why they are illegal.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/…
Here's a good deal of information where I got my sources.
http://www.feoa.net/modules.php?name=For…
Here's a source for REAL HID conversions.
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/
Your links don't work since you just copy pasted this whole thing from a random person on yahoo answers, which is a horrible source...
__________________
2006 Ford Ranger Sport 4.0 2WD on 32x11.50R15s
-3" Doetsch Spindle Lift


Using the forum:
How to Post on the Forum
Creating a signature (do this before asking any questions)
Upload an Avatar (image of your Ranger)
How to Post Pictures on the Forum
Switch the site layout: Light Theme or Dark Theme

Things to do:
Participate in Truck of the Month
Participate in the Ranger Photo Contest
Participate in the Non-Automotive Photo Contest
Become a Site Contributor
Shop at the FordRangerForum.com Store
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 11-09-2010, 11:36 AM
Jp7 Jp7 is offline
DISABLE ADBLOCK: LOLZ
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,438
Default Re: ordering hids tonight. quick question.







beam is better than any oem projector i've ever seen w/ the exception of the s2k.
__________________
Looking for a professional retrofitter to add HIDs or LEDs to your Ranger? PM me if your looking to have work done, and have cash to spend.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FireRanger View Post
I'm dying to see this at night. Someone go tell the sun to give up already.
Quote:
Originally Posted by beef08 View Post
Your the man, you bring our dreams to a reality within the lighting spectrum
Quote:
Originally Posted by BCobe View Post
Jp7 you always do AMAZING work! Hats off to you sir
Quote:
Originally Posted by FireRanger View Post
People so often confuse "hating" with "knowing better".
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 11-09-2010, 11:44 AM
Tom Tom is offline
Ranger Enthusiast
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 6,829
Default Re: ordering hids tonight. quick question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jp7 View Post
beam is better than any oem projector i've ever seen w/ the exception of the s2k.
And this is part of the reason there isn't any penal code violation (that I know of) that states something as generic as HIDs are illegal.

The illegality of HIDs has to due with violating other penal codes such as failure to dim, and improper light color. It's not the HID itself that is illegal, but the output.
__________________
2006 Ford Ranger Sport 4.0 2WD on 32x11.50R15s
-3" Doetsch Spindle Lift


Using the forum:
How to Post on the Forum
Creating a signature (do this before asking any questions)
Upload an Avatar (image of your Ranger)
How to Post Pictures on the Forum
Switch the site layout: Light Theme or Dark Theme

Things to do:
Participate in Truck of the Month
Participate in the Ranger Photo Contest
Participate in the Non-Automotive Photo Contest
Become a Site Contributor
Shop at the FordRangerForum.com Store
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 11-09-2010, 11:54 AM
4evermodding 4evermodding is offline
Modding To Continue >>>>
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 1,114
Default Re: ordering hids tonight. quick question.

I guess you are right, copy/paste and the links don't work.... ummmmmm

I fixed the link and also provided you with the actual sit, in the search bar you can type in HID and the ruling will come up

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/glare.html
http://www.nhtsa.gov/
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 11-09-2010, 01:01 PM
CLC912 CLC912 is offline
Holy shit, it's Viper!
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 15
Default Re: ordering hids tonight. quick question.

bright as you can everywhere you can. i race in the desert. no such thing as to much light.
__________________
"Fly Fight Win"... My desk has wings?
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 11-09-2010, 01:10 PM
JGiddy JGiddy is offline
-
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 2,682
Default Re: ordering hids tonight. quick question.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom View Post
There is no law against HIDs (in CA). There are more generic laws about having proper lighting, light output, etc., and this is where you can potentially be cited.



Tint is an easy one. The California penal code states ANY tint is illegal on the side mirrors. Rear mirrors and side mirrors can be as dark as you want.
i think you meant to say windows, not mirrors lol
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Quick Question Ranger Kid General Ford Ranger Discussion 15 11-11-2010 02:58 AM
Quick Question GeorgiaRanger Drivetrain Tech 0 08-23-2010 04:41 PM
Quick question robsranger Wheels and Tires 1 02-10-2010 04:01 PM
quick question aholtzberger Drivetrain Tech 0 01-21-2010 09:27 AM
Quick question cheade Lifted Suspension 4 05-23-2009 05:09 AM