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08-19-2017, 12:55 PM
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Air pressure monitor in the wheels
2008 ford ranger. Want to get custom rims for it. Is there away of disconnecting the light on dash. Do not want to put the monitors back in the wheels. Will have 2 sets one for winter and another 4 wheels for summer. Thanks.
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08-20-2017, 08:18 AM
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The Big Mamou
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Re: Air pressure monitor in the wheels
You could just completely delete the light in the dash. TPMS is not required in Canada, and none of the provinces have made any special rules about it. Since all the official research has so far ruled that TPMS doesn't prevent any significant number of accidents, it's also unlikely to ever become part of future legislation.
Just take the dash out and remove the light, or blank out the symbol with electrical tape from behind so that the light doesn't shine through.
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08-20-2017, 08:35 AM
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Re: Air pressure monitor in the wheels
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Originally Posted by Scottydog
You could just completely delete the light in the dash. TPMS is not required in Canada, and none of the provinces have made any special rules about it. Since all the official research has so far ruled that TPMS doesn't prevent any significant number of accidents, it's also unlikely to ever become part of future legislation either.
Just take the dash out and remove the light, or blank out the symbol with electrical tape from behind so that the light doesn't shine through.
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I doubt if TPS hasn't prevented crashes but they sure have seriously reduced wheel damage.
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08-20-2017, 08:58 AM
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The Big Mamou
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Re: Air pressure monitor in the wheels
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I doubt if TPS hasn't prevented crashes but they sure have seriously reduced wheel damage.
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Do you know that for a fact, or are you just speculating? I'd be interested to see the research/statistical analysis.
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08-20-2017, 02:01 PM
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Re: Air pressure monitor in the wheels
As mentioned above, tape over the dash light. No way to disable.
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08-20-2017, 06:40 PM
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Re: Air pressure monitor in the wheels
It is possible to remove it from the computer but it would require someone with the ability to completely re-program the ecu. There are lots of software packages for GM LS based engines, and also Hondas. Unfortunately, very few for Ford because almost every one uses a completely different design and is overly complicated. Good luck and I would just put the sensors in the new wheels. They fit in the valve stem holes and are very easy to put in.
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08-20-2017, 09:28 PM
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Re: Air pressure monitor in the wheels
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Good luck and I would just put the sensors in the new wheels. They fit in the valve stem holes and are very easy to put in.
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That might be true for other brands and maybe even some Fords, but the Ranger has sensors strapped to the wheels on giant hose clamps. Also I wouldn't exactly say that "just put the sensors in the new wheels" is a good solution, because that's really expensive.
The cheapest TPMS sensors on ebay are around $30 for a set of 4 (no you shouldn't re-use your old ones, they are battery powered and are probably past their shelf life), the programming tool is around $60, the clamps are around $80 for a set of 4. So that's $170 to do a set of 4 wheels and this guy wants 8 for a summer and winter set, $280 for all 8. Add tire mounting and balancing you're in another $100 per 4, so that's $200. All in you're talking $480, not including shipping and taxes.
So spend ~$500 just so an idiot light can tell you when to put air in your tires, OR, put a ~$0.000005 piece of electrical tape on the inside of the dash, and spend the $499.999995 on better mods.
Think I know which one I'd go for.
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08-21-2017, 03:33 AM
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Re: Air pressure monitor in the wheels
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Do you know that for a fact, or are you just speculating? I'd be interested to see the research/statistical analysis.
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Research and statistical analysis..........it's just common sense. If the driver gets a few extra seconds to get off the road, that would help. In a blowout, nothing would help.
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08-21-2017, 08:29 AM
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Re: Air pressure monitor in the wheels
EDIT: Screw it, not worth arguing the point.
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08-21-2017, 10:06 AM
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Re: Air pressure monitor in the wheels
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That might be true for other brands and maybe even some Fords, but the Ranger has sensors strapped to the wheels on giant hose clamps. Also I wouldn't exactly say that "just put the sensors in the new wheels" is a good solution, because that's really expensive.
The cheapest TPMS sensors on ebay are around $30 for a set of 4 (no you shouldn't re-use your old ones, they are battery powered and are probably past their shelf life), the programming tool is around $60, the clamps are around $80 for a set of 4. So that's $170 to do a set of 4 wheels and this guy wants 8 for a summer and winter set, $280 for all 8. Add tire mounting and balancing you're in another $100 per 4, so that's $200. All in you're talking $480, not including shipping and taxes.
So spend ~$500 just so an idiot light can tell you when to put air in your tires, OR, put a ~$0.000005 piece of electrical tape on the inside of the dash, and spend the $499.999995 on better mods.
Think I know which one I'd go for.
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Didn't realize Rangers had that type. We did my dad's 2010 F-250 for about $60 total including the programming tool and it took just a few minutes. But it has the type that go in the valve stem holes.
PS I really wish they would drop this stupid system. Had a friend that took their Ford in that was only 1.5 years old. Ford wouldn't warranty the bad sensor. Saying that those were not part of what was covered. Charged him several hundred $.
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08-21-2017, 04:02 PM
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The Big Mamou
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Re: Air pressure monitor in the wheels
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PS I really wish they would drop this stupid system. Had a friend that took their Ford in that was only 1.5 years old. Ford wouldn't warranty the bad sensor. Saying that those were not part of what was covered. Charged him several hundred $.
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I hear ya, I really hate TPMS too and I consider myself fortunate to live in Canada where it isn't mandatory to have the system functioning. I'd love to see Ford and others drop the system, but unfortunately it's currently tied to legislation from 2007 that forces the manufacturers to include it. With Trump in the oval office, and a total lack of evidence that TPMS offers any extra safety whatsoever, now would be the time for the manufacturers to lobby to have that piece of legislation (among others) pulled. One can only hope. I'm sure if they can do this we'd see the return of cheap, mechanically simpler cars and trucks.
I must say I really hate the way that vehicles are going more and more computerized. It's pricing the new economy market into tiny cars they don't want, and killing the used car market because restrictive safety inspection rules are making perfectly drivable cars into little more than scrap just because there's a light on the dash and it will cost more than the car is worth to make that light go away. BMW is a classic example, sensors for the sake of sensors, mostly just designed to fail as a racket to make the dealers more money.
All this is why my endgame is to buy an old pickup from the south to do a full "remanufacture" restoration on, and it can be my keeper daily until I'm in the ground. The only electrics I'll want on that truck will be the radio, lights, and spark plugs.
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