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Old 08-02-2017, 08:26 AM
ford4thot ford4thot is offline
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OK I contacted Skyjacker and confirmed the springs you purchased are not designed for your 2000 Ford Ranger.

They do not offer any rear springs for your truck.

The springs you purchased fit Ford rangers from the 1980's to 1997

The springs you purchased have a locating pin further forward than what you truck calls for which is what is causing your axle to not be properly aligned with your wheel wells.

And yes the spring shackles are compounding this problem.

What you do about fixing this issue is up to you.
You work way too hard to help ppl sometimes, but man its nice to have you around
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Old 08-02-2017, 08:34 AM
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OK I contacted Skyjacker and confirmed the springs you purchased are not designed for your 2000 Ford Ranger.

They do not offer any rear springs for your truck.

The springs you purchased fit Ford rangers from the 1980's to 1997

The springs you purchased have a locating pin further forward than what you truck calls for which is what is causing your axle to not be properly aligned with your wheel wells.

And yes the spring shackles are compounding this problem.

What you do about fixing this issue is up to you.
The reason they dont list these for my year of ranger has to do with the bushings which I have resolved. All of the leaf spring websites I've lookes at (including deaver) say that '83ish to '08 springs are the same

https://www.deaverspring.com/product...ger-1983-2008/

http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index....219&x=119&y=15

http://www.generalspringkc.com/Leaf_...ger_s/1879.htm

https://thesuspensionking.com/index....=70_88_209_216

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I appreciate all his hard work

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The reason they dont list these for my year of ranger has to do with the bushings which I have resolved. All of the leaf spring websites I've lookes at (including deaver) say that '83ish to '08 springs are the same

https://www.deaverspring.com/product...ger-1983-2008/

http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index....219&x=119&y=15

http://www.generalspringkc.com/Leaf_...ger_s/1879.htm

https://thesuspensionking.com/index....=70_88_209_216

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Skyjacker FR36S compatibility

Here is the thread I made pre-lift

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Old 08-02-2017, 08:41 AM
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The reason they dont list these for my year of ranger has to do with the bushings which I have resolved. All of the leaf spring websites I've lookes at (including deaver) say that '83ish to '08 springs are the same
Got a spring shop where you live? Those guys can work wonders on building and the price is quite reasonable.

* I missed the life blocks but that's a reasonable option too. Drops the axle straight down as opposed to the rear shackles, the rotation, and thus, the forward movement that you got.
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Old 08-02-2017, 09:46 AM
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The reason they dont list these for my year of ranger has to do with the bushings which I have resolved. All of the leaf spring websites I've lookes at (including deaver) say that '83ish to '08 springs are the same

https://www.deaverspring.com/product...ger-1983-2008/

http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index....219&x=119&y=15

http://www.generalspringkc.com/Leaf_...ger_s/1879.htm

https://thesuspensionking.com/index....=70_88_209_216

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Skyjacker FR36S compatibility

Here is the thread I made pre-lift

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All of this to prove what?

The end result is still the same, Skyjacker does not make springs for your truck.

There is more than just the bushing eyelet size that is different.

The technician at Skyjacker ( the people that make this spring ) flat out said the locating pin is set further forward.

However I do not know this to be a fact because I did not pull your old springs and compare them to your new springs.

At this point I would have to believe Skyjacker since they are in the business to make money yet decided it was not worth the effort to make a lift for the newer Rangers.

If all they needed to do was press a different bushing in the same part I am sure they would have done that.

All the other springs that claim these springs work from 1986 to 2003 have no merit for you because you did not purchase any of them.

You opted for the only one that flat out told you would not work.

And here we are with a truck your embarrassed to drive.

But since I am full of it I will happily sit back and watch what becomes of this lift that you shot down the idea of changing when the thread started.
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Old 08-02-2017, 09:52 AM
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All of this to prove what?

The end result is still the same, Skyjacker does not make springs for your truck.

There is more than just the bushing eyelet size that is different.

The technician at Skyjacker ( the people that make this spring ) flat out said the locating pin is set further forward.

However I do not know this to be a fact because I did not pull your old springs and compare them to your new springs.

At this point I would have to believe Skyjacker since they are in the business to make money yet decided it was not worth the effort to make a lift for the newer Rangers.

If all they needed to do was press a different bushing in the same part I am sure they would have done that.

All the other springs that claim these springs work from 1986 to 2003 have no merit for you because you did not purchase any of them.

You opted for the only one that flat out told you would not work.

And here we are with a truck your embarrassed to drive.

But since I am full of it I will happily sit back and watch what becomes of this lift that you shot down the idea of changing when the thread started.
I'm not trying to be rude at all. If you look up a few posts I actually thanked you for your help. Im not saying your full of it at all.

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Old 08-02-2017, 01:50 PM
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Default Re: Rear axle not centered in wheel well

I found this discussion:
http://therangerstation.com/forums/s....php?p=1599922

The poster there installed the Skyjacker spring pack on a late model Ranger and specifically mentions removing the axle perch correction shims from them before installation because it would "severely mess up the pinion angle if left installed". That might be what you're running into.
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Old 08-02-2017, 02:10 PM
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I found this discussion:
http://therangerstation.com/forums/s....php?p=1599922

The poster there installed the Skyjacker spring pack on a late model Ranger and specifically mentions removing the axle perch correction shims from them before installation because it would "severely mess up the pinion angle if left installed". That might be what you're running into.
Referring to the wedge on the bottom of the leaf pack?

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Old 08-02-2017, 03:37 PM
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Yes.
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Old 08-02-2017, 03:42 PM
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Yes.
I suppose that would make sense. But what that move the axle forward?

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Old 08-02-2017, 04:13 PM
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I'd definitely start with the shackles.
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Old 08-02-2017, 04:38 PM
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Isaac, what are you thinking of the block? My '04 Edge [RWD] has a block, I'm not sure, but it may be 2" +/-, those came stock on mine. If ya want, I'll get a measurement for ya. Again, not sure, but it might be a taller one than you had in there.
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Old 08-02-2017, 05:03 PM
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Isaac, what are you thinking of the block? My '04 Edge [RWD] has a block, I'm not sure, but it may be 2" +/-, those came stock on mine. If ya want, I'll get a measurement for ya. Again, not sure, but it might be a taller one than you had in there.
Mine had a block in it stock

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Old 08-04-2017, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: Rear axle not centered in wheel well

I'm not sure what axle you have but Rough Stuff Specialties has spring perchs that fit a 3 1/4" axle tube (8.8) with 3 locating holes so you can adjust the wheelbase. Cut off your old perches and weld on these new ones and you can correct pinion angle while you're at it. http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/...g/88PERCH.html

You can worry about driveshaft length once you get the axle where you want it.
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