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Old 02-10-2017, 03:40 AM
AuburnTigers24 AuburnTigers24 is offline
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Default Time to let her go.

What can i say about this truck. I got her when i was 16 and I loved taken her out on adventures through the woods. The experiences we had are ones i will always cherish and she was a great first truck for this guy. She served me well since i was 16. Unfortunately her high milage has taken its toll and i can't make financial sense of trying to fix all the problems she has. where so i start?
- Front suspension is shot.-need new upper/lower control arms, shocks, coil overs, etc. was quoted 1400.
- transmission- started about 2 months ago. was driving 35 and truck acted like it was in neutral and no power to the wheels. Went to transmission guy and said he knew it was the sprag clutch- 1600 fix or 2500 rebuild. O/D sensor started flashing then too-we all know what that means
- engine likes to shut off below 1500 rpms-havent figured that one out yet. especially when putting into park or stopped at red light.
-Should get new tires- 800 for a decent set nothing special
- the reflector in my headlights broke and havent had time to replace those yet.

This is just the stuff i can think of off the top of my head. I cant justify putting all this money into a truck that is worth maybe 3000 at this point, especially when all the repairs is close to 6000. That being said i think its time to move onto something a little newer and a little bigger. Im currently looking to upgrade to a newer model f150. I just graduated college and got a new job and i think its time to cut my losses. I hate to see her go but maybe somebody will want to take her in and fix her up.
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Old 02-10-2017, 07:57 AM
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sorry about the situation
i just wanted to drop in and say that the front suspension could be done with mostly hand tools (and maybe some auto store borrowed tools) for maybe $300 bucks if you take yoru time ordering parts. headlights can be had cheap online.

and a good tuneup and some gasket kits on the intake could be done for maybe $100 - $200 depending on how far deep you go... might get your engine stall issue taken care of that way lol

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might consider buying another vehicle to DD while you work on this one? lol, i've enjoyed the hell out of having two vehicles to work in

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Old 02-10-2017, 09:28 AM
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Default Re: Time to let her go.

x2, maybe its time to start doing your own work? I needed to replace the upper and lower intake gaskets, I was quoted a MINIMUM of $800 just for the labor, not parts. Did it myself in my driveway for $130 in parts (did plugs, wires, tstat, belt, and ignition coil as well as the gaskets).

Control arms will cost you like $200 from rockauto, and a couple of hours in your driveway.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:18 AM
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Default Re: Time to let her go.

I'd keep it around as an extra vehicle. These things are fantastically simple and durable, and very easy/cheap to fix yourself. Hell I've got 400k miles between the two I own. I'll always have a spot in the driveway for one.
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Old 02-10-2017, 10:27 AM
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Sounds like you are a new vehicle kind of guy. If you don't enjoy doing your own work on vehicles then sell it. Perhaps fix the front suspension and headlights by yourself to save $$$$ and increase the resale value. Honestly, look up Chrisfix on YouTube if you wish to have another ~$1000 added to the resale value. With all of those issues on a 2002 I would not offer what you're considering to ask.

Let us know what you end up doing.

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Old 02-20-2017, 11:24 AM
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With the help of some friends i can definitely see how i could do most of these repairs minus the transmission. Don't get me wrong I love working on my truck, but i'm at a point where i want to start a new project with a used 2005-2010 f150. I have a little money saved up and i could afford to do some of the repairs myself, but i would rather use it to upgrade to something fullsize.

Would i like to keep it as a project truck? sure, but with just getting out of college and paying back loans and everything else it would just sit and not get the attention it deserves.

I think a younger kid would love this as a starter truck, just like it was for me. Maybe someone could take it on when they are 15 and work on it and learn about trucks and develop a passion.

Like i said before i hate to sell it, but i think someone who has more time and money would give it the attention it deserves
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Old 02-21-2017, 02:40 PM
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here are some pictures of my front suspension. Give me suggestions on what to replace and if i can do it on my own. i know i would have to rent a tool for the ball joints. If you see anything else let me know
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Old 02-21-2017, 02:57 PM
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Hard to tell from pictures what's worn out. Here's how to check.

For ball joints, tie rods and wheel bearings:

Jack the front end up.

Grab the tire at 12 and 6 o'clock, and try to wiggle it. If it moves, either the upper balljoint or the wheel bearing is bad (look at the upper balljoint while testing to see if it moves. If it doesn't, it's the wheel bearing that's bad)

Grab the tire at 9 and 3 o'clock and try to wiggle it. If it moves, you have play in the tire rod. Look at the tie rod while testing. If there's play at outer end (near the tire) then the outer tie rod end is bad. If the whole tie rod moves (not just at the outer end) then the inner tie rod is bad.

Take a pry bar and pry up on the bottom of the tire. If it moves up, there's play in the lower ball joint. (Bad wheel bearing could also cause movement, so watch the lower ball joint while testing.)

Put the truck back on the ground

For shocks:
Push down on the front end of the truck and then let it rebound. If it rebounds slow (ish) and controlled, then the shocks are fine. If it rebounds quickly and bounces a few times, the shocks are worn out.

Bushings;
Visually inspect bushings for cracked rubber/rubber pushed out of the bushing. Bushings are less "clear cut" as far as when one is bad or not.



The front end on these trucks is pretty simple. You don't need any special tools.
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Old 02-22-2017, 07:27 AM
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good stuff! ^^^
factor in an alignment after working over the front end. you can get the toe really close yourself. i can tell you how when you get there
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Old 02-22-2017, 09:43 AM
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With the help of some friends i can definitely see how i could do most of these repairs minus the transmission. Don't get me wrong I love working on my truck, but i'm at a point where i want to start a new project with a used 2005-2010 f150. I have a little money saved up and i could afford to do some of the repairs myself, but i would rather use it to upgrade to something fullsize.

Would i like to keep it as a project truck? sure, but with just getting out of college and paying back loans and everything else it would just sit and not get the attention it deserves........
Here's something to think about......how to get financially ahead in life faster than most people........keep the Ranger a bit longer, do the needed repairs yourself. Pay off or put a big dent in your loans, starting with the one that has the highest interest rate. The money you've saved up, make sure that amounts to six months of living expenses (your emergency fund, designed to carry you through a layoff). After that important task is done, work on a vehicle down payment or better yet, a house down payment. Smart money says that in the end, don't go take on a car payment just because you're about out of college, and the absolute poorest choice of all would be to lease a new vehicle (translation, long term rental with nothing to show for it, like living in a rental house forever). Don't join the road of another Engineer I worked with who, after paying his bills including the new car, had $20 to last two weeks. Miserable.
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Old 02-22-2017, 11:03 AM
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Here's something to think about......how to get financially ahead in life faster than most people........keep the Ranger a bit longer, do the needed repairs yourself. Pay off or put a big dent in your loans, starting with the one that has the highest interest rate. The money you've saved up, make sure that amounts to six months of living expenses (your emergency fund, designed to carry you through a layoff). After that important task is done, work on a vehicle down payment or better yet, a house down payment. Smart money says that in the end, don't go take on a car payment just because you're about out of college, and the absolute poorest choice of all would be to lease a new vehicle (translation, long term rental with nothing to show for it, like living in a rental house forever). Don't join the road of another Engineer I worked with who, after paying his bills including the new car, had $20 to last two weeks. Miserable.
I was tempted to say the same, but I held my tongue since no one asked for my financial advice. Never, ever, EVER, take out a loan for a car or lease a car. I'd take an uber driver every day before I would do either of those things. I have three cars, all of them were paid for in cash!

Because I did not take a car payment while I was in college, I am way ahead of my peers financially. My house will be paid off in ten years and I have no loans to pay off. I hope that the OP will take this advice into consideration.
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Old 02-22-2017, 11:40 AM
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What can i say about this truck. I got her when i was 16 and I loved taken her out on adventures through the woods. The experiences we had are ones i will always cherish and she was a great first truck for this guy. She served me well since i was 16. Unfortunately her high milage has taken its toll and i can't make financial sense of trying to fix all the problems she has. where so i start?
- Front suspension is shot.-need new upper/lower control arms, shocks, coil overs, etc. was quoted 1400.
- transmission- started about 2 months ago. was driving 35 and truck acted like it was in neutral and no power to the wheels. Went to transmission guy and said he knew it was the sprag clutch- 1600 fix or 2500 rebuild. O/D sensor started flashing then too-we all know what that means
- engine likes to shut off below 1500 rpms-havent figured that one out yet. especially when putting into park or stopped at red light.
-Should get new tires- 800 for a decent set nothing special
- the reflector in my headlights broke and havent had time to replace those yet.

This is just the stuff i can think of off the top of my head. I cant justify putting all this money into a truck that is worth maybe 3000 at this point, especially when all the repairs is close to 6000. That being said i think its time to move onto something a little newer and a little bigger. Im currently looking to upgrade to a newer model f150. I just graduated college and got a new job and i think its time to cut my losses. I hate to see her go but maybe somebody will want to take her in and fix her up.
Auburn Tigers 24: take everyones advice,
do as many of the repairs yourself, pay for the rest and kept driving the Ranger. Start a savings account for your next truck. 3 and 4 years from now there are going to be several small trucks available.
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Old 02-24-2017, 10:03 AM
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Thanks for all the advice. Financially i'm in a pretty good place. no credit card debt, a few thousand in savings, truck has been payed off. I still plan on selling the truck this year but i have taken to yalls advice and have compiled a parts list to do some of my own repairs. This weekend me and a buddy are replacing most of the front suspension; new upper control arms, sway bar, all the ball joints, tie rods. the only thing i feel i cant do is the transmission. That is what is the deciding factor. I know i could go find a used one, have it rebuilt, etc. but for the long run and financially for me i dont want to put thousands into a truck when i could use that for a down payment. And when i say i want a new truck im not saying a brand new f150. Ive done the math and with my new job, and bills, and everything else i can afford to put around 3k down and finance the rest of about a 15k-16k truck. This will still leave me with enough money to live comfortably.

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