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01-04-2017, 01:57 PM
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Re: 4x4 vs 2wd
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I dont buy that the 4x4s and 4x2s value are the same.
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I get that accepting reality would put a dent in your argument but this is seriously getting ridiculous now... You can see where I live, just go look at autotrader yourself. My '09 4x4 was $9500, cheaper than many of the 2wd of the same year and trim on there currently. In fact there's a '09 2wd XL on there right now at $12k.
But who cares about facts right? The important thing is you FEEL like you're right.
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Expert opinions coming from a guy that posted this just a little over a week ago
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Believe it or not, someone can have offroad experience and knowledge before they gain modification or on-road vehicle ownership experience. That tends to happen when you grow up in a rural area.
At any rate, nobody has been able to disprove any of what I've said, so taking issue with my "expertise" or qualification to give advice is just redundant trolling. Just saying "you're wrong" is the internet argument equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and screaming "LALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU".
In fact some of you have just been flat out wrong, like Mr "the majority of 4x4 rangers are LSD" over there. Seems to be pretty common knowledge in the Ranger community that LSD Ranger axles are unicorns and most donors come from Ford Explorers. Didn't take much google digging to turf that up. In the process I found my axle code which lo and behold, is an 8.8" open diff. WHAT WERE THE ODDS?
Peace.
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01-04-2017, 02:06 PM
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Uncle Ronnie
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Re: 4x4 vs 2wd
I like internet fights
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01-04-2017, 02:16 PM
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I'm kind of a big deal
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Originally Posted by Scottydog
I get that accepting reality would put a dent in your argument but this is seriously getting ridiculous now... You can see where I live, just go look at autotrader yourself. My '09 4x4 was $9500, cheaper than many of the 2wd of the same year and trim on there currently. In fact there's a '09 2wd XL on there right now at $12k. But who cares about facts right? The important thing is you FEEL like you're right. Believe it or not, someone can have offroad experience and knowledge before they gain modification or on-road vehicle ownership experience. That tends to happen when you grow up in a rural area. At any rate, nobody has been able to disprove any of what I've said, so taking issue with my "expertise" or qualification to give advice is just redundant trolling. Just saying "you're wrong" is the internet argument equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and screaming "LALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU". In fact some of you have just been flat out wrong, like Mr "the majority of 4x4 rangers are LSD" over there. Seems to be pretty common knowledge in the Ranger community that LSD Ranger axles are unicorns and most donors come from Ford Explorers. Didn't take much google digging to turf that up. In the process I found my axle code which lo and behold, is an 8.8" open diff. WHAT WERE THE ODDS? Peace.
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And again no real world experience on anything you say. Just spouting the same nonsense over and over that you got from google, but from the information you give you cant even google right. Must be using Ask Jeeves or something.
Driving your dads old Land Rover randomly in the country doesn't count for much for experience.
LOL at a ranger with lsd being a unicorn. Damn you really have no clue. Just sound like a young kid that thinks he knows it all. I've probably owned and been modifying rangers for as long as you have been alive from the sounds of it.
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01-04-2017, 02:35 PM
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Re: 4x4 vs 2wd
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Originally Posted by Scottydog
I get that accepting reality would put a dent in your argument but this is seriously getting ridiculous now... You can see where I live, just go look at autotrader yourself. My '09 4x4 was $9500, cheaper than many of the 2wd of the same year and trim on there currently. In fact there's a '09 2wd XL on there right now at $12k.
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Asking price is rarely the same as selling price. I have never paid the full asking price on anything I have every purchased.
Oh and by the way, thanks! I own a unicorn! Yay!
Also, can you post a picture of your door tag for us?
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01-04-2017, 02:58 PM
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Chat ********* Overlord
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Originally Posted by Scottydog
I get that accepting reality would put a dent in your argument but this is seriously getting ridiculous now... You can see where I live, just go look at autotrader yourself. My '09 4x4 was $9500, cheaper than many of the 2wd of the same year and trim on there currently. In fact there's a '09 2wd XL on there right now at $12k.
But who cares about facts right? The important thing is you FEEL like you're right.
Believe it or not, someone can have offroad experience and knowledge before they gain modification or on-road vehicle ownership experience. That tends to happen when you grow up in a rural area.
At any rate, nobody has been able to disprove any of what I've said, so taking issue with my "expertise" or qualification to give advice is just redundant trolling. Just saying "you're wrong" is the internet argument equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and screaming "LALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU".
In fact some of you have just been flat out wrong, like Mr "the majority of 4x4 rangers are LSD" over there. Seems to be pretty common knowledge in the Ranger community that LSD Ranger axles are unicorns and most donors come from Ford Explorers. Didn't take much google digging to turf that up. In the process I found my axle code which lo and behold, is an 8.8" open diff. WHAT WERE THE ODDS?
Peace.
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Just because you bought an open diff ranger =\= majority of rangers being open diff. Most of the swaps you read about on here are from 2wd owners too.
Your off-road knowledge that you gain before being g able to legally drive is probably very little.
Most people would prefer a driving wheel on each axle compared to a 2wd. Not sure why you think you did a mic drop, your post most certainly wasn't
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01-04-2017, 02:59 PM
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I'm kind of a big deal
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Originally Posted by Ordinary Biker
Oh and by the way, thanks! I own a unicorn! Yay!
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So do I, how is that possible?
Guess he doesn't get that people swap to explorer axles for the added strength.
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01-04-2017, 03:00 PM
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Chat ********* Overlord
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Originally Posted by camodown
So do I, how is that possible?
Guess he doesn't get that people swap to explorer axles for the added strength.
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I had a unicorn. Now I have electric unicorns
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01-04-2017, 03:05 PM
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Re: 4x4 vs 2wd
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Originally Posted by camodown
So do I, how is that possible?
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Not possible. MINE CAN BE THE ONLY ONE! You must post a picture of your door tag post haste to verify your silly claim!
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I had a unicorn. Now I have electric unicorns
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I have electric sheep. Well, in my dreams I do anyway.
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01-04-2017, 03:11 PM
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Ford Tough
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Re: 4x4 vs 2wd
The junkyards around here are full of lsd unicorns
The only time I see 2wd/locker having an advantage over 4wd/open is if your flexing alot and have diagonal wheels with no traction, but at that point, the 2wd/locker isn't going to get it out either. Serious Longshot, and even then it's easily avoidable if you know what you're doing.
Alot easier to add a locker to a 4wd/open than add 4wd to a 2wd/locker
4wd locker> 4wd open > 2wd locker> 2wd open >lawnmower
Go to pirate 4x4 with all your experience
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01-04-2017, 03:41 PM
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Re: 4x4 vs 2wd
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Originally Posted by Ranger Danger 1998
I like internet fights
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That's the only reason I'm on the internet
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01-04-2017, 04:51 PM
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Chat ********* Overlord
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Originally Posted by ford4thot
That's the only reason I'm on the internet
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Is the maro locked? Probably would out wheel most 4wd trucks here
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01-04-2017, 05:22 PM
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Re: 4x4 vs 2wd
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Originally Posted by guell
Is the maro locked? Probably would out wheel most 4wd trucks here
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Specially with those summer tires on it, I wish I had that coming home from work in 8 degree weather with snow on the road. What was I thinking buying a 4wd?
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01-04-2017, 05:39 PM
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2019 SSVT Ford 'Maro
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Re: 4x4 vs 2wd
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Originally Posted by guell
Is the maro locked? Probably would out wheel most 4wd trucks here
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YUP. PLUS I GOT THE FACTORY 7.94 GEARS so I GOOD TO GO
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Specially with those summer tires on it, I wish I had that coming home from work in 8 degree weather with snow on the road. What was I thinking buying a 4wd?
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Haha that's what I'm waking up to tomorrow.
Stealing the Willy's
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01-04-2017, 05:51 PM
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Re: 4x4 vs 2wd
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Haha that's what I'm waking up to tomorrow.
Stealing the Willy's
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Well, according to the new expert, the Jeep IS good to go eh?
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01-04-2017, 06:00 PM
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Ford Ranger Driver
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Re: 4x4 vs 2wd
I've NEVER seen a 4x4 ranger without a limited slip....
I've seen me a few rangers too....
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