For those that don't know I did the Focus mod - Page 3

guell · #31 02-11-2014, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioMike

I think this is the third thread talking about winter blend fuels. I also hate them, and OH requires them Nov. 1st to April 1st. Wonder what mileage gains I will get then. A 2013 better not cause issues since it is brand new.

Isn't a Pontiac Vibe the equivalent of a Toyota Matrix - at least the same engine? I've heard mixed reviews.

Yet, the number one selling vehicle in America (and competed with the Honda Accord successfully) for how many years? The only issues my dad had with his was the blower motor, a window motor, and the transmission. My mom has had only one issue with her 03' Taurus and that was the neutral safety switch. My dad's Taurus had maybe 90K when he traded it in, and my mom's is going strong with only 55K, and she is terrible on cars.

my gf had one, it ate 3 or 4 rack and pinions. They are garbage and she wont ever own another ford because of it.

djfllmn · #32 02-11-2014, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by guell

my gf had one, it ate 3 or 4 rack and pinions. They are garbage and she wont ever own another ford because of it.

Yea my mom won't own another ford because of our 90 Taurus wagon...what a pile of shit

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Originally Posted by bigfisher

they're cheap family cars. They're going to sell well

The new ones are far far from cheap

OhioMike · #33 02-11-2014, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Coke Addict

I work at a Toyota dealership in the service department. A handful of cars have come in with over 300k miles on them and still in good condition. All of them were Matrix or Venzas.

The windshields are expensive as hell for some reason. My buddie needed a new one and told me it cost $750.

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Originally Posted by bigfisher

thats cause a Ford Taurus is a piece of shit. Have yet to see a taurus that didnt leak with more than 30k miles

Ford Edge is based off the same chassis and seems to last, though, the vehicle was introduced in 07'. I had our tranny fluid exchanged at 45K when we bought out the lease, and we are currently at 91K+ with no issues.

bigfisher · #34 02-11-2014, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by djfllmn

Yea my mom won't own another ford because of our 90 Taurus wagon...what a pile of shit ---------- The new ones are far far from cheap

new ones no. Especially the SHO. $45k

djfllmn · #35 02-11-2014, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioMike

The windshields are expensive as hell for some reason. My buddie needed a new one and told me it cost $750.

Ford Edge is based off the same chassis and seems to last, though, the vehicle was introduced in 07'. I had our tranny fluid exchanged at 45K when we bought out the lease, and we are currently at 91K+ with no issues.

No the 1st gen edge is based on a Volvo platform

bigfisher · #36 02-11-2014, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioMike

The windshields are expensive as hell for some reason. My buddie needed a new one and told me it cost $750. Ford Edge is based off the same chassis and seems to last, though, the vehicle was introduced in 07'. I had our tranny fluid exchanged at 45K when we bought out the lease, and we are currently at 91K+ with no issues.

havent had any Edges come in and have problems. Have a lot of them come in with 120k plus miles with no leaks. Then we have Taurus' that have 30k and have leaking oil pans, axle shaft seals and valve covers....
But this is getting off topic

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OP-- Nice car i hope you enjoy it

btm757 · #37 02-11-2014, 07:27 PM

Hey if I could have afforded it I would have loved to get a taurus or a fusion. Neither had the mpg I needed at the price I wanted. I manage to get this from the sticker price of just over $22,000 down to $15,995 for a brand new car.

bigfisher · #38 02-11-2014, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by btm757

Hey if I could have afforded it I would have loved to get a taurus or a fusion. Neither had the mpg I needed at the price I wanted. I manage to get this from the sticker price of just over $22,000 down to $15,995 for a brand new car.

you got a great deal. The new Foci are nice

OhioMike · #39 02-11-2014, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by djfllmn

Since when has the Taurus been the best selling car...that's long been held by the Camry

The Taurus in the late 80's/early 90's when it was introduced.

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Originally Posted by 01RangerEdge

It's not the fuel that we noticed. The day the temp dropped around 20 degrees and stayed cold is the same day her mileage dropped.

Density of fuel and needing more in cold weather. I had some shaking at idle today in the Ranger after it had been warmed-up. No stalling and no CEL, but I expected the vehicle to shut-off it was moving so violently.

btm757 · #40 02-11-2014, 07:29 PM

I drive about 600 miles a week so mpg is very important for my wallet. I cant make any money if I'm spending half of it on gas. I will save about $190 a month just in fuel and then on top of that I dont have to pay for any other maintenance.

Coke Addict · #41 02-11-2014, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 01RangerEdge

I'm an Mechanical Engineer for Toyota, this was based on consumer reviews I saw through internal communications.

Nothing 'top secret', they just didn't score well against some of the more popular Toyota options, which is why it was dropped.

Oh you are one of those guys my techs hate lol. So you mean ergonomics and style wise? I know they aren't very popular, but I thought you meant mechanically they are bad cars, which hasn't been my experience. Either way Matrix was just an example. Any car in that class could have worked for me, but for obvious reasons I usually lean Toyota.

OhioMike · #42 02-11-2014, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by djfllmn

No the 1st gen edge is based on a Volvo platform

But, they use the same weak Taurus transmission, correct?

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Originally Posted by btm757

I drive about 600 miles a week so mpg is very important for my wallet. I cant make any money if I'm spending half of it on gas. I will save about $190 a month just in fuel and then on top of that I dont have to pay for any other maintenance.

Dang! That is some serious mileage.

01RangerEdge · #43 02-11-2014, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Coke Addict

Oh you are one of those guys my techs hate lol. So you mean ergonomics and style wise? I know they aren't very popular, but I thought you meant mechanically they are bad cars, which hasn't been my experience. Either way Matrix was just an example. Any car in that class could have worked for me, but for obvious reasons I usually lean Toyota.

I'm not in the design division, this was an overall review, mechanical, styling, handling, comfort, etc.

This combined with poor sales led to the decision to drop it.

djfllmn · #44 02-11-2014, 07:37 PM

yea ben i drive 600 miles a week too...hence the honda mod lol

AlaBusa · #45 02-11-2014, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bigfisher

thats cause a Ford Taurus is a piece of shit. Have yet to see a taurus that didnt leak with more than 30k miles

My Dad's '03 has 185k miles with not a single issue. Still running oem brake pads on the rear and fronts were changed at 145k. This is his 3rd Taurus with similar results.