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Old 07-11-2014, 09:23 AM
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I have a 97 b2300 with 2.3 auto. Right now I have a 4 inch rough country and it's going to have 33x12.50 on 15x10 so a little extra weight there. I have a stock front bumper but it's messed up from an accident I got in a year ago. I was looking at buying a new bumper and valance. But instead of spending the money on that thinking about building a new bumper out of sheet metal, with some extra lights, couple D rings and really would like a winch. But my question is that's a lot of weight on the front of the truck. Don't know if rough country makes stiffer springs for the 4 inch kit or not. Also I'm geared with 4.10 right now but I'm going to switch over to 4.56. I'm going to be installing my camper shell again with a full size spare in the bed. Small tool box with tools, on board ac compressor and tank and also jack and such. So there's going to be some extra weight all around. With the 2.3 and the auto it's not gonna have any guts even though it already doesn't. I will be rebuilding my trans in the future just because it has 200k on it. Motor has 100k. Also considering the rear disc brake mod. My truck is a pavement princess. Goes offroad every once and a blue moon and even then it's only through sand. Don't really need a winch. But my neighbors dad has one on the front of his 2500 with a built bumper and he uses it for everything. There's a ton of uses for it. And it won't be a warn. I'm gonna get a cheap 8k smitty built or a harbor freight winch. Idk about the harbor fright winch though. And would like to have synthetic rope.

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With camper top before lift.

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Looking at building a bumper like this. But with recessed lights or led light bar.
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Old 07-11-2014, 10:12 AM
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Mine will be here in a few days from c4x4, it weighs roughly 110 lbs, the smiitybilt 2nd gen 9.5k synthetic weighs about 50 lbs and is the best bang for your buck atm. I went with a mile marker synthetic, but I'm brand loyal as Ive had 3. I'm running tbars but id say stiffer springs are in order for you first.
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Old 07-11-2014, 10:24 AM
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Yeah I was gonna buy a bumper but I don't like any for the 3rd gens. I'm going to email rough country and see about stiffer springs. The springs with the kit are way stiffer then stock. I can feel it over bumps. Really interested in how your truck looks when you get the bumper on!
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Old 07-11-2014, 10:30 AM
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Smittybilt is not cheap quality lol. Like Rick said, they don't make a 8k anymore, replaced with with gen2 9.5k. Which I can't wait to get my hands on. Will be upgrading my xrc8 to the new xrc9.5 by the end of the year. New one is totally waterproof (I've ran my xrc8 underwater before without issue.......) and a new motor and faster line speed

That is a ton of weight btw, if you do the bumper, winch, onboard compressor and all the other stuff, that's a good 500-600 pounds (100 for winch if you don't get synthetic, 100+ bumper, 50lb full size spare, 50lb tools and such, 30lb jack....etc. That is a ton of weight to be adding for a i4 motor. The 456 will help but your gas mileage will be in single digits.
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Old 07-11-2014, 10:36 AM
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Lol right now my milage is only 14 per gallon! The spare is a 33x12.50 mt baja claw on a steel 15x10. I'm going to 4.56 gears possibly 4.88 but I still wanna be able to ride highway. And I'm going to go synthetic to save on weight. The compressor I'm looking at is a viair med duty with 3 gallon tank. Tools is a small box with wrenches and ratches and such. should have done the 5.0 swap! Had the explorer and decided against it. Stupid move lol
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Old 07-11-2014, 10:38 AM
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Certainly should have if you had the opportunity haha.
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Old 07-11-2014, 10:42 AM
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I know I'm regretting it. But oh we'll. I really don't wanna kill the trans. The motor is a strong motor. Everything is maintained meticulously. I really still wanna be able to haul my 5x10 with 2 atvs also. I really want a bumper but i really don't wanna kill my truck lol
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Old 07-11-2014, 10:44 AM
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The bumper wouldn't kill it. All the weight of it and stuff in the back may cause your trans to have a problem. Do a manual swap?
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Old 07-11-2014, 10:48 AM
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I really don't wanna do a Manuel. Thinking about having it rebuilt and seeing if can need it up somehow. I really wanna rebuild it with my dad but he refuses to touch it even though he's trans certified. My spare won't be in all the time. On long trips I'll put it in.
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Old 07-11-2014, 01:48 PM
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Yeah I was gonna buy a bumper but I don't like any for the 3rd gens. I'm going to email rough country and see about stiffer springs. The springs with the kit are way stiffer then stock. I can feel it over bumps. Really interested in how your truck looks when you get the bumper on!
I can't wait either Will be high time to do a build thread once I get it on, anyways...
I've had 3 winch bumpers with winches, one on a 3.5L V6 dog(Isuzu Trooper), and the weight up front was handled just fine, though I had aftermarket tbars on that one. On my Tundra I had an even heavier bumper from Tactical Armor group, and a set of bilsteins with stock springs was adequate. I had that 8k Smitty on my Tundra and it was just fine, used it many times including one time pulling 5200lbs dead weight(a scissor lift I got stuck in a building lol.) The 9.5k is a crazy deal, can't be matched especially waterproof and synthetic. Alot of haters out there mainly because it's made in China, but damn isn't everything? Including some internals on the new Warn winches.
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Old 07-11-2014, 01:57 PM
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Everything is made in china. I can't see spending the money on a warn cause I'm not going to use it that much. If I was using it all the time then yeah I would get one but I'm not. I emailed Rc and asked what the spring rate is on the 4 inch lift springs and told them what I was planning on doing. So gotta wait and see what they say. I think with the taller gears it will all be good. I'm probably going to use a thinner gauge sheet for the sides and top and thicker on the front with some bracing through it. I have built bumpers for my 90 jeep cherokee but they are 3 inch square tube bumpers with 2012 jk bumper mounts, hitch reciever, and hooks. It's really strong. Snatched a couple people out with it, even hit a dirt embankment at about 20 and still it's good. Only thing I did to it was explode the axle. And blew both ball joints. It was fun dragging it into the back yard lol.

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Last pic is before the ball joints completely gave.
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Old 07-11-2014, 02:13 PM
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I just got a reply from Rc the springs are rated for 434 lbs per inch.
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Old 07-11-2014, 03:18 PM
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That's pretty stiff, I bet you're golden. 150 lbs will drop you a hair, but probably no more than a half inch in the front.
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Old 07-11-2014, 03:20 PM
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Idk what stock is but they feel pretty stiff. They are a lot beefier then the factory springs.

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Old 07-11-2014, 04:32 PM
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They're probably f150 springs actually. I know that's a cheap lift method tht coil ranger owners can do. And with a 4cyl instead of a V6 the bumper will probably make your front sit like it would be if it was a 6 and soften your ride.
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