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Old 07-12-2011, 08:26 PM
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Ok I have a bit of an issue. My truck has been neglected since day one due to my brothers lack of care. It has some spider webbing and overall dirty paint. I want to claybar it, I just want to know what else I should get while I'm at it. Any help would be appreciated.


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Old 07-12-2011, 08:52 PM
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since your truck is black i would pick up the turtle wax black box. works great but its a three step process. will probably take 3-5 hrs to do.
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Old 07-12-2011, 09:20 PM
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since your truck is black i would pick up the turtle wax black box. works great but its a three step process. will probably take 3-5 hrs to do.
kinda disagree here, ive used the Blackbox on mine. not a fan of it. looks good for like two weeks then thats about it. just had better luck with other stuff. IMO i would claybar it forsure. find somebody with experience with a buffer have them hit it for you, because black its hard to mess with. it will get rid of that. I buffed mine at work, then used a 3M black polish with an orbital buffer then used a deep sealer wax on it. you wudnt believe what kind of wanders it did.
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kinda disagree here, ive used the Blackbox on mine. not a fan of it. looks good for like two weeks then thats about it. just had better luck with other stuff. IMO i would claybar it forsure. find somebody with experience with a buffer have them hit it for you, because black its hard to mess with. it will get rid of that. I buffed mine at work, then used a 3M black polish with an orbital buffer then used a deep sealer wax on it. you wudnt believe what kind of wanders it did.
i agree with you on the part of it not lasting as long as other conventional waxes. i did find that if there was any type of scratch or chip in my paint it would mask it and make it a lot less noticeable. if you don't have much scratches or chips in your paint then i would definetly go with something else.
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Old 07-12-2011, 09:34 PM
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i agree with you on the part of it not lasting as long as other conventional waxes. i did find that if there was any type of scratch or chip in my paint it would mask it and make it a lot less noticeable. if you don't have much scratches or chips in your paint then i would definetly go with something else.
yea it suckd i was prety disapointed with it. theres a lot of better waxes. out. but only thing ive found on removing the spider webs was from buffing it, and using the polish from 3M we have at our detial shop. its so much better now .
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yea it suckd i was prety disapointed with it. theres a lot of better waxes. out. but only thing ive found on removing the spider webs was from buffing it, and using the polish from 3M we have at our detial shop. its so much better now .
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:17 PM
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Andy whatever u decide to do just lemme know ill come down and help you out! and we can take pics!
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:48 PM
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wtf, and I dont even get a pm asking for help lol.

Items needed:
  • Meguiar's Deep Crystal Car Wash
  • Meguiar's Clay bar system
  • Meguiar's Ultimate Compund
  • Meguiar's Ultimate Polish
  • Meguiar's NXT 2.0 OR Ultimate wax
  • Meguiar's Quick Detailer
  • Microfiber towels
  • and alot of work
  • tire brush
  • tire cleaner of your likings

As you can see, I love Meguiar's. BUT let me say, if your paint cannot be fixed by hand, you will need to take it to a detailer to have it buffed.

You need to wash it REALLY good and dry it really good stating with wheels and tires. Then once they are washed and scrubbed, change out water in bucket and wash truck. Then dry it. Then get it in a garage or in some shade to apply all the rest of the products after washing. Once washed and dried, your first step is the clay bar. Knead the clay in your hand until its softened up and pliable.

Starting on the hood in about a 6"x6" square, spray some Quick Detailer and then take the clay bar and rub. Once that area is rubbed well, wipe the detailer off and using the BACK of your hand, feel the paint starting in an adjacent area that was not clayed. This way you can really feel the effect of the clay bar.

once you have clayed the entire hood, the next step is the compound. Applying all these products by hand but can be done. When you apply the compound, make sure to apply steady pressure but not too much. also DO NOT use finger tips to rub paint, or you could harm it more. The BEST thing to do is using blue painters tape, section off an area for a 50/50 test area. on one side of the tape, you use your product, on the other, nothing. This helps shows you that the products are working. Again, you are only doing this in small sections. with compound, you need to wipe if off when done. don't do the whole hood before you wipe it off lol. Once the hood is compounded, the nest step is polish.

To polish, same hand applying concept at compound, dont use fingertips and apply even steady pressure when applying. When you apply polish, DO NOT leave it on to haze up like wax. That is not how the product was intended to be applied. wipe off after doing your little area. once the whole hood is polished, the next step is wax. apply wax thin and evenly. Alot of people think you have to apply wax really thick to make it effective; well you dont. Plus when applied thin, it comes off easier and less dusty. I said use Meguiar's, but I have found a new wax called Auto Glym that i absolutely love. Onnce the whole panel is waxed and has cured for about 15 minutes, remove wax. That hood is DONE. Move to the next panel.

I usually do Hood>driver fender, then fo counter clockwise around truck until I end with the front end (I have painted bumper remember). Then do the top last.

Once the whole truck has all this treatment, I go over it with the Quick Detailer to remove any wax dust and to give it that extra POP.

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Old 07-14-2011, 12:52 PM
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:06 PM
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wtf, and I dont even get a pm asking for help lol.

Items needed:
  • Meguiar's Deep Crystal Car Wash
  • Meguiar's Clay bar system
  • Meguiar's Ultimate Compund
  • Meguiar's Ultimate Polish
  • Meguiar's NXT 2.0 OR Ultimate wax
  • Meguiar's Quick Detailer
  • Microfiber towels
  • and alot of work
  • tire brush
  • tire cleaner of your likings

As you can see, I love Meguiar's. BUT let me say, if your paint cannot be fixed by hand, you will need to take it to a detailer to have it buffed.

You need to wash it REALLY good and dry it really good stating with wheels and tires. Then once they are washed and scrubbed, change out water in bucket and wash truck. Then dry it. Then get it in a garage or in some shade to apply all the rest of the products after washing. Once washed and dried, your first step is the clay bar. Knead the clay in your hand until its softened up and pliable.

Starting on the hood in about a 6"x6" square, spray some Quick Detailer and then take the clay bar and rub. Once that area is rubbed well, wipe the detailer off and using the BACK of your hand, feel the paint starting in an adjacent area that was not clayed. This way you can really feel the effect of the clay bar.

once you have clayed the entire hood, the next step is the compound. Applying all these products by hand but can be done. When you apply the compound, make sure to apply steady pressure but not too much. also DO NOT use finger tips to rub paint, or you could harm it more. The BEST thing to do is using blue painters tape, section off an area for a 50/50 test area. on one side of the tape, you use your product, on the other, nothing. This helps shows you that the products are working. Again, you are only doing this in small sections. with compound, you need to wipe if off when done. don't do the whole hood before you wipe it off lol. Once the hood is compounded, the nest step is polish.

To polish, same hand applying concept at compound, dont use fingertips and apply even steady pressure when applying. When you apply polish, DO NOT leave it on to haze up like wax. That is not how the product was intended to be applied. wipe off after doing your little area. once the whole hood is polished, the next step is wax. apply wax thin and evenly. Alot of people think you have to apply wax really thick to make it effective; well you dont. Plus when applied thin, it comes off easier and less dusty. I said use Meguiar's, but I have found a new wax called Auto Glym that i absolutely love. Onnce the whole panel is waxed and has cured for about 15 minutes, remove wax. That hood is DONE. Move to the next panel.

I usually do Hood>driver fender, then fo counter clockwise around truck until I end with the front end (I have painted bumper remember). Then do the top last.

Once the whole truck has all this treatment, I go over it with the Quick Detailer to remove any wax dust and to give it that extra POP.

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Old 07-14-2011, 08:41 PM
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wtf, and I dont even get a pm asking for help lol.

Items needed:
  • Meguiar's Deep Crystal Car Wash
  • Meguiar's Clay bar system
  • Meguiar's Ultimate Compund
  • Meguiar's Ultimate Polish
  • Meguiar's NXT 2.0 OR Ultimate wax
  • Meguiar's Quick Detailer
  • Microfiber towels
  • and alot of work
  • tire brush
  • tire cleaner of your likings

As you can see, I love Meguiar's. BUT let me say, if your paint cannot be fixed by hand, you will need to take it to a detailer to have it buffed.

You need to wash it REALLY good and dry it really good stating with wheels and tires. Then once they are washed and scrubbed, change out water in bucket and wash truck. Then dry it. Then get it in a garage or in some shade to apply all the rest of the products after washing. Once washed and dried, your first step is the clay bar. Knead the clay in your hand until its softened up and pliable.

Starting on the hood in about a 6"x6" square, spray some Quick Detailer and then take the clay bar and rub. Once that area is rubbed well, wipe the detailer off and using the BACK of your hand, feel the paint starting in an adjacent area that was not clayed. This way you can really feel the effect of the clay bar.

once you have clayed the entire hood, the next step is the compound. Applying all these products by hand but can be done. When you apply the compound, make sure to apply steady pressure but not too much. also DO NOT use finger tips to rub paint, or you could harm it more. The BEST thing to do is using blue painters tape, section off an area for a 50/50 test area. on one side of the tape, you use your product, on the other, nothing. This helps shows you that the products are working. Again, you are only doing this in small sections. with compound, you need to wipe if off when done. don't do the whole hood before you wipe it off lol. Once the hood is compounded, the nest step is polish.

To polish, same hand applying concept at compound, dont use fingertips and apply even steady pressure when applying. When you apply polish, DO NOT leave it on to haze up like wax. That is not how the product was intended to be applied. wipe off after doing your little area. once the whole hood is polished, the next step is wax. apply wax thin and evenly. Alot of people think you have to apply wax really thick to make it effective; well you dont. Plus when applied thin, it comes off easier and less dusty. I said use Meguiar's, but I have found a new wax called Auto Glym that i absolutely love. Onnce the whole panel is waxed and has cured for about 15 minutes, remove wax. That hood is DONE. Move to the next panel.

I usually do Hood>driver fender, then fo counter clockwise around truck until I end with the front end (I have painted bumper remember). Then do the top last.

Once the whole truck has all this treatment, I go over it with the Quick Detailer to remove any wax dust and to give it that extra POP.

Your welcome
hot damn scott lol. hel need a few days for that to soak in thats for sure lol. but def what he needs to do lol.
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Old 07-14-2011, 09:17 PM
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Both of these are amazing products. only reasen i kno about them is cause i work at a car detail shop. they are for bringing the paint back to that shine and deep look your after. use after buffing.


IVe not used this yet but its amazing for all paints. i plan on it.

3M™ Finesse-it™ Compounding Material 77340



I have used this. it works as a polisher too. and if you do happn to swril wile buffing.
3M Perfect-It Swirl Mark Remover




Then after your done with all that, take what scott (dixie_boysles) minus clarbaring no need. and do as he instructed and your truck will look great
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