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Old 07-09-2011, 09:35 PM
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Default Does Anyone Know Specifics About Paint Codes

ok guys as some of you may know I have the solid black xl bumper and I was painting the top portion white to match my truck and to give it the xlt and fx4 upgraded style.

Well long story short, I dont know if it was my fault, or the paint place, or both of our faults but they ended up giving me the wrong white. Instead of oxford, they gave me ceramic. Acourse I didnt realize this until it was already sprayed. I guess next time I need to double check better, but I told thme exactly what I have so I dont know why they would mix a ceramic. The paint code F6 isn't even an option on your trucks, and I even said just regular oxford work truck white, but whatever.

My question is, is the base coats for the 2 different colors that different? Specifically for the 3 stage paints, we have a base coat, than a top coat to give it its finish. Im going to just sand off the clear, scuff up the ceramic white and reshoot it, but was curious if paying for the base coat again would be worth it. The bumper is already a white color now, so I assumed it really won't make a difference when the top coat is applied.

I know this is pretty specific and not alot are going to have this kind of info, but just curious. Thanks
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Old 07-10-2011, 04:44 AM
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The oxford white code is YZ

I would imagine your gonna need to take all the paint off. To make it look right.
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Old 07-10-2011, 05:09 AM
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I have never used ceramic paint but I know the clear has a window of opportunity. You can respray for about 48 hrs or you have to wait like 2 weeks. You would have to read the can or ask your paint supplier. They just gave you a generic white paint, you will need to give them your paint code.
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Old 07-10-2011, 06:17 AM
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The Ceramic White is a tri-coat.

And be advised that there are 7 alternatives for the YZ paint code.

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automotive companies will have different SHADES of a particular color code. some codes don't have any alternates (like Z1) and others have many (I've seen as many as 7). then for tri-color colors u have different alternates for the base coat and different alternates for the mid coat (back a couple years ago the base/mid coat alternates weren't related, but now they are labeled as the same alternates). it gets to be a major PITA when matching colors for vehicles. most times its fairly easy, like when it tells u alt so-and-so is for a super duty, or focus, etc. but other times its not. I've seen a few cars that NONE of the alternates match the car, not even close enough to blend it out within the next panel. this is when u go into tinting colors, which is VERY frustrating and time consuming.

what i do when I'm about to begin doing a spot-panel job (anything not overall where u don't care about color matching nearly as much) is take a color book out to the vehicle and use the color code on the vehicle to look up the color in the book. this will give me a 1"x1" color chip that is the STANDARD or EQUAL TO CHIP color. ill lay that up against the car and make a mental note as to how the color matches, doe sit need darker, lighter, coarser flake, finer flake, more yellow, more blue, etc. then i go into the computer and see how many ALTERNATES there r. i then choose the alternate that corresponds to the mental note i took on how the color matches.

sometimes this is easy and it'll be a snap. other times they'll throw u a curve by having a couple of the alternates that have he same color variation description the same as another. GM's 382E is a prime example of this. that color is so bad i actually made a KIT for this color that i mixed and made a little color panel for each of the 6 alternates so i can make a match. this is the darker PEWTER or tan-ish/silver color on like silverado's. GM is bad about having a bunch of alternates.

then u have HONDA colors, they suck donkey dong. these u have the color code and then a color code for each of the 3 plants where they were produced. for example honda NH638M has three different color plant codes each code has its own set of alternates and only 1 chip in the book.:doh::thumb:
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Old 07-10-2011, 07:41 AM
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I've seen em mess up before. Oreillys has the paint books where you should be able to pick what color you want and they mix it for you but sometimes people make mistakes. Id 320 it down and re shoot the oxford. That paint color has been around for a long ass time.
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Old 07-11-2011, 04:09 PM
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I've seen em mess up before. Oreillys has the paint books where you should be able to pick what color you want and they mix it for you but sometimes people make mistakes. Id 320 it down and re shoot the oxford. That paint color has been around for a long ass time.
thats what we are planning on doing but just trying to wait alittle bit to let it harden up to sand off the clear and top coats of ceramic white. I just know the base coat for the ceramic white was white with a yellowish tint. Id imagine that the oxford white's base coat is white with some type of tint, whether it be yellowish, or slightly different.

I guess I should just take the safer route and go ahead and buy the base coat that comes with the oxford white paint code and redo the base, top coat, and clear again. I might be able to get by with just spraying the oxford over the ceramic whites base color beens I assume they are very close but I guess its better to be more safe than sorry.

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The Ceramic White is a tri-coat.

And be advised that there are 7 alternatives for the YZ paint code.
and beens our oxford white yz has that many alternatives, what would be the best way to match it up to my truck? A buddy of mine does all the work basically and shoots it, I just help out and go buy the stuff thats needed from a local supplier that me and others use.

Im not worried to much about it not matching absolutely perfect because acourse this isn't a show car, put under lights and can be scrutinized at all times. You know I bought to truck to work and do what I need it to do, I live on a horse farm so I mean it gets scratches and nicks and things of that nature on it. There were even a few that we just painted over and didn't worry about using any filler to completly get rid of then just for this fact. BUT if im spending the money to do it and have the upgraded look I obviously want to try and get it close within reason without having to go to extraordinary lengths you know what I mean.
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Old 07-13-2011, 07:56 PM
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Old 07-14-2011, 07:22 PM
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Best bet is either have a paint shop color match it or get the various paint chips to eye ball it in bright light.

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