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Old 04-28-2011, 03:14 PM
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I think we should settle this with a virtual arm wrestle!

Steve if it helps any I have 5k 35 watt kits in mine, and I have been driving with them for months on end and haven't had a single run in with the law because of them, not to mention half of ukiah has hid lights swapped in so I am sure you will be fine. This is no law by any means, and self justifacation is surely present in these words, but you should be fine.
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Old 04-28-2011, 04:05 PM
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Well looks like I will be ordering some new headlights tonight lol. Thanks fireranger you should be the sheriff of Frf haha.
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:10 PM
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i mean a cop could pull you over for some stupid reason if he wanted to but its not worth the trouble but yea i say go 5k ive had mine since september and there amazing in the fog too i mean they light everything up but not too much glare
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:16 PM
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i know several people who have gotten tickets for HIDs, even one guy who went so far as to modify his stock explorer housings to retrofit bmw x5 projectors in. i called CHP on my break in class today and of the three people I talked to at the station (baldwin park, ca), they could all say they are illegal, ticketable, but could not give me a specific code. i'd rather just drop it at this, and agree to disagree instead of have an internet argument. in the end, it is the cop's discretion whether he gives you a ticket for your HIDs.


Edit: I guess this is what they can cite you for, among other things.


V C Section 26101 Modification of Vehicle Equipment
Modification of Vehicle Equipment

26101. (a) ( )1 A person shall not sell or offer for sale for use upon or as part of the equipment of a vehicle ( )2 any device that is intended to modify the original design or performance of any lighting equipment, safety glazing material, or other device, unless the modifying device meets the provisions of Section 26104. ( )3

(b) ( )4 A person shall not use upon a vehicle, and a person shall not drive a vehicle upon a highway that has installed a device that is intended to modify the original design or performance of a lighting, safety glazing material, or other device, unless the modifying device complies with Section 26104.

(c) This section does not apply to a taillamp or stop lamp in use on or prior to December 1, 1935, or to lamps installed on authorized emergency vehicles.
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:22 PM
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well then i guess we need to read the provisions in section 26104!

and as for a cop pulling you over for those lights and giving you a fix it ticket, you can fight it. if they cant prove its illegal when you called the chp then how are they gonna ticket you? the important part is you have your lights aimed right so they cant get you for that.
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:27 PM
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I don't see it being a problem since so many people have them already. Especially if I have them adjusted properly. If the cops didn't know what code at the station then I doubt they look for it when out on patrol.
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:28 PM
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exactly they are only gonna bother you if they need an excuse for something else, or you are blinding everyone on the road.
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:42 PM
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26104:

(a) Every manufacturer who sells, offers for sale, or
manufactures for use upon a vehicle devices subject to requirements
established by the department shall, before the device is offered for
sale, have laboratory test data showing compliance with such
requirements. Tests may be conducted by the manufacturer.
(b) The department may at any time request from the manufacturer a
copy of the test data showing proof of compliance of any device with
the requirements established by the department and additional
evidence that due care was exercised in maintaining compliance during
production. If the manufacturer fails to provide such proof of
compliance within 30 days of notice from the department, the
department may prohibit the sale of the device in this state until
acceptable proof of compliance is received by the department.
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:44 PM
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so basically as long as the lights dont say not legal for street use you are fine.
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Old 04-28-2011, 10:49 PM
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We already had this discussion. Requirements for selling an item has no relationship to the legality of using the item.
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Old 04-28-2011, 11:21 PM
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just get em and look at the prius they have hids in some cars and some not but could be because theyre housing were made for it but just get em i know cops that have em on their cars lol
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Old 04-29-2011, 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by doyouquaxu View Post
i know several people who have gotten tickets for HIDs, even one guy who went so far as to modify his stock explorer housings to retrofit bmw x5 projectors in. i called CHP on my break in class today and of the three people I talked to at the station (baldwin park, ca), they could all say they are illegal, ticketable, but could not give me a specific code. i'd rather just drop it at this, and agree to disagree instead of have an internet argument. in the end, it is the cop's discretion whether he gives you a ticket for your HIDs.
That's nice. It doesn't matter what some random police officer at a police station said to you. Unless they can cite the specific state law they're citing you for, then it is completely meaningless.

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Edit: I guess this is what they can cite you for, among other things.

V C Section 26101 Modification of Vehicle Equipment
Modification of Vehicle Equipment

26101. (b) ( )4 A person shall not use upon a vehicle, and a person shall not drive a vehicle upon a highway that has installed a device that is intended to modify the original design or performance of a lighting, safety glazing material, or other device, unless the modifying device complies with Section 26104.

26104:
(a) Every manufacturer who sells, offers for sale, or
manufactures for use upon a vehicle devices subject to requirements
established by the department shall, before the device is offered for
sale, have laboratory test data showing compliance with such
requirements. Tests may be conducted by the manufacturer.
You're reading it wrong. Emphasis added above. It says you can't use anything that doesn't comply with the the department. It's a redundant law saying you can't use anything that doesn't comply with previously listed laws in the State of California. Nowhere in my reading have they ever referenced any of the federal standards that may prohibit HID's. They are referencing only their own laws, which is all the police can enforce anyway. So this does not change anything. If they cite you for this, any your lights are white, positioned properly, and not blinding people, then it is a bad charge and you can take it to court and get it dropped.

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so basically as long as the lights dont say not legal for street use you are fine.
No. Markings, packaging, and advertising are meaningless and not at all regulatory. Ignore anything your read that says DOT this and that, "Street legal" or "Off-road use only". None of that means anything. What matters is how you use it and where.
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