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Old 03-01-2011, 08:35 PM
jrafnell jrafnell is offline
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The way you mounted it is not correct, so how do you recommend it to other people? Using drywall anchors and some random steel you found laying around with self tapping screws is not a proper way to make a light bar. Also, putting lights on the bumper with a simple L bracket is not hard and would give you the same benefit as putting them on the roof.
What is the problem with the way i mounted it? not trying to sound like a dick but i actually do want to know. everyone else keeps telling me its gonna leak but thats not true.
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:45 PM
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- Use a drill to make a pilot hole, don't use the self tapping screw as a drill bit.
-The bracket mounted to the truck is sitting on the inside corner, which will wear into the paint and eventually cause it to rust.
-Two self tapping screws might be fine for a little while but over time (depending on how many lights you have) may break because of wind resistance and impacts of going off road/potholes etc. They are meant to hold sheet metal, not light bars on a truck
-You should have used a grommet to run the wires through instead of just runnign them through the (bad) hole you just drilled that has sharp edges and will cut through the wire. You might have put silicone over the hole, but it should still have a grommet or something to protect the wires.
-The roof of the cab is very flimsy and I wouldn't be surprised if after time it will start to crack the paint all around the brackets and if you are out on a trail and hit a branch or something, I wouldnt trust the drywall screws or the sheet metal to hold up to much.
-The "light bar" hangs over the sides of the truck quite a bit, not sure how tall you are but I'd probably smack my head into it walking by, and it just looks odd sticking out so far.

Yah you got what you wanted, lights on the roof for cheap. In my opinion, it looks horrible and you couldnt pay me to do that to my truck. There are many ways to mount lights on a truck, this is NOT one way I would recommend to any member. A simple flat bracket bolted into your bumper would have been much cheaper, much easier and much nicer.

I agree with everyone else, you will probably get some water leaking in. IT might not happen tomorrow or next week, but with the heat/cold and all the flexing the roof will be doing, the silicone may weaken or let water seep through. Even if its just a tiny bit of water every time it rains.... now you have moisture up there.
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Old 03-01-2011, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: Over Cab Light Bar Installation

not being a jerk, just respectably disagreeing.

there shouldn't be any problems with using the tapping screws to make a pilot hole, as long as you dont do it a lot.

yes there is a risk of the lights getting hit on the roof, but there is just as much risk with them on your bumper.

i tried using brackets on my bumper and it just didnt work that well. maybe its just me but i personally didnt like it.

however i do agree that some better materials could have been used for this project. but my goal was to do it cheaply and have it look somewhat decent. personally i like the way it looks but everyone is going to have there own opinion.

thank you for giving me a few pointers, and later on down the line i may decide to re do the project a little better but for now its perfect

but like many people have said, to each his own. this is my way of doing it and some people may agree, while some of the people reading this may disagree. the only reason i posted the instructions for this is because no one else has posted a how to for building a light bar. if someone can do it better than i did then good luck.
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Old 03-01-2011, 09:53 PM
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this is what a friend did. a bolt goes through the hole in the tab and attaches to his light bar. no drilling, and it looks way better than scrap crap.




here's another way


both are stronger than the way you suggested, and use proper materials
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:49 PM
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The sheet metal screws are too corse they will loosen off,the house window caulking is made for a house which is not supposed to be drivin down the hwy or off road for that matter.This is doomed to leak.I am not bashing you at all i actually feel sorry that nobody was there to stop you from doing this.I understand gutter mounts will not work thats just what i called them,of course our trucks have no gutters so you wouls need the proper ones for your application.
I actually feel bad enough that if you take that to a shop and have those holes welded up before its too late i will give you a roof rack for free,you will just have to pay for the freight.
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Old 03-02-2011, 05:05 AM
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this is what a friend did. a bolt goes through the hole in the tab and attaches to his light bar. no drilling, and it looks way better than scrap crap.




here's another way


both are stronger than the way you suggested, and use proper materials
Like I said in many of the other comments though. This is a cheap mod, it's something you could do at your house on the weekend with some of your friends. To weld those brackets to your truck is a great idea, and if I had a welder at my house I would do it. But I don't and most people on this forum don't so that is not a cheap way to build a light bar and it was probably not done at your house.
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:30 PM
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heres the pictures of it during the day for everyone who requested them.





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Old 03-02-2011, 08:35 PM
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looks good, i personally woulda used a multiuse rack but thats just cuz i haul stuff up against the cab sometimes
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Old 03-02-2011, 09:01 PM
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- Use a drill to make a pilot hole, don't use the self tapping screw as a drill bit. While I agree that you shouldn't have used those particular screws, using a pilot hole on a self tapping bit is ridiculous. They are made to start themselves.
-The bracket mounted to the truck is sitting on the inside corner, which will wear into the paint and eventually cause it to rust. Totally agree with this.
-Two self tapping screws might be fine for a little while but over time (depending on how many lights you have) may break because of wind resistance and impacts of going off road/potholes etc. They are meant to hold sheet metal, not light bars on a truck They might not break, but they will continue to move with the weight, which will cause the hole they are in to become bigger, making the entire assembly flop around like a rag doll.
-You should have used a grommet to run the wires through instead of just runnign them through the (bad) hole you just drilled that has sharp edges and will cut through the wire. You might have put silicone over the hole, but it should still have a grommet or something to protect the wires. Agreed
-The roof of the cab is very flimsy and I wouldn't be surprised if after time it will start to crack the paint all around the brackets and if you are out on a trail and hit a branch or something, I wouldnt trust the drywall screws or the sheet metal to hold up to much. Agreed
-The "light bar" hangs over the sides of the truck quite a bit, not sure how tall you are but I'd probably smack my head into it walking by, and it just looks odd sticking out so far. Agreed

Yah you got what you wanted, lights on the roof for cheap. In my opinion, it looks horrible and you couldnt pay me to do that to my truck. There are many ways to mount lights on a truck, this is NOT one way I would recommend to any member. A simple flat bracket bolted into your bumper would have been much cheaper, much easier and much nicer.

I agree with everyone else, you will probably get some water leaking in. IT might not happen tomorrow or next week, but with the heat/cold and all the flexing the roof will be doing, the silicone may weaken or let water seep through. Even if its just a tiny bit of water every time it rains.... now you have moisture up there.
You WILL have a leak, trust me. After a time, silicone will begin to harden in direct sunlight and become extremely brittle. You can take your finger (not the nail, the print part of your finger) and rub it softly, and the stuff will come right off after it sits for a while.

I've installed around 100 windows in the years that I've been doing construction, and I have NEVER used silicone to put them in to stop leaks. We used a water barrier tape around all the edges, trim and drip edge sheet metal with a latex based caulking around the trim. Even that needs redone every 20 years on houses (10 on areas that receive direct sunlight).

I don't like it at all. It looks cheap, and even though you don't think you did, you've messed up your truck. Just because you don't want to sell it doesn't mean that something might happen to force you to to pay a bill, and it WILL hurt your resale.

But hey, if you like it, and you feel that you have installed it properly then my hats off to ya. Thanks for at least having a step by step dealy for it
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Old 03-02-2011, 10:22 PM
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Sorry, but I'm just not diggin' it.

I really hope you didn't do that to an 01 truck.

Make sure to keep a rain poncho in the cab with you because you're going to get leaks in a few months when the screw holes rust out.

That is IF you're lucky enough to not have the wires fray, short out and catch the headliner on fire first.

If it were an old farm truck that's not a daily driver, I'd say have at it, but doing that to a newer model daily driver isn't the best of ideas.... but hey, it's your truck do to it what you will.
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:40 PM
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This thread helped me alot. It gave me an idea on how to mount lights but I aint gonna drill any holes in my roof. you prolly should of trimed up the the sides so it don't look like it is wider then the truck, but hey it is your truck.

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Old 03-03-2011, 06:06 PM
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idk man it looks way cheap i think you coulda took alittle extra time and effort and put into it to look alittle bette rbut hey its a first attempt
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Old 03-03-2011, 06:24 PM
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i sure hope your expanding screws arnt sticking down into the cab, if you roll over those things could be meeting your head
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Old 03-04-2011, 08:38 PM
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i sure hope your expanding screws arnt sticking down into the cab, if you roll over those things could be meeting your head
they arent, i was worried about the same thing so i made sure they werent too long. there only a little more than an inch long so that shouldnt be a problem.

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This thread helped me alot. It gave me an idea on how to mount lights but I aint gonna drill any holes in my roof. you prolly should of trimed up the the sides so it don't look like it is wider then the truck, but hey it is your truck.
thanks, glad i could help out. i plan on cutting a few inches off of them soon, i almost hid my head on them today when i was getting in my truck lol. glad you liked the write up though.
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:28 PM
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Oh boy. Well I give your point for resourcefulness. But the installation quality, method, and looks are pretty bad. It's crooked. It's held together with drywall anchors???? The lights appear to be ready to fall off. You have a piece of wire in an unprotected sharp metal hole.

Based on the rest of this project, I can only assume you have the electrical portion done completely wrong as well. So chances are it will probably catch on fire and burn down soon too.

You wanted honest opinions so I'm giving it to you.
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