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Old 05-26-2011, 12:00 AM
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My Bixenon lights arrived today and i am stoked to install them,anyone know where i can get a step by step on the install? All the instructions i find online show an elaborate harness with power and ground and some have a relay but my kit doesnt have those.Could it really be that easy?
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Old 05-26-2011, 09:39 AM
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My Bixenon lights arrived today and i am stoked to install them,anyone know where i can get a step by step on the install? All the instructions i find online show an elaborate harness with power and ground and some have a relay but my kit doesnt have those.Could it really be that easy?
Little curious as to what kit you have as it should have instructions, a power, and a ground. Also I've never heard of bixenon kit that doesn't have a relay harness (not that I claim to be the know all).

Whered you get the kit? Take a picture of what you have...
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Old 05-26-2011, 09:46 AM
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My Bixenon lights arrived today and i am stoked to install them,anyone know where i can get a step by step on the install? All the instructions i find online show an elaborate harness with power and ground and some have a relay but my kit doesnt have those.Could it really be that easy?
The bixenon kit has to have some kind of wiring harness. There is no way it can operate properly without SOMETHING to integrate the high and low beam power together and power the solenoid that kicks the bulb into the high beam position.

If you bought a low beam only kit, then there is no additional wiring harness, relay, or battery connection needed.

Post a link to what you bought.
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Old 05-26-2011, 01:41 PM
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I ordered 2 bixenon kits from GGlighting,1 for the Ranger which has headlights and fogs and 1 set of bixenon for my Focus.The lights where labeled so i know what is for what vehical but no instructions and everything i google shows more wiring and relays so i have no idea.
Here is what i have for the Ranger.


This is how i figured it went.


These are the fogs
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Old 05-26-2011, 05:30 PM
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I was somewhat afraid that's what I would see. Rather than using a relay or MOSFET to power the ballasts from the battery and control the high beam solenoid, there must be a two diodes in the that blue connector that allow power from the high and low circuits to power the ballasts without backfeeding. And also tapped into it are the power and ground for the high beam solenoid.

This is less than ideal since you do get a voltage drop across the diodes and they'd have to be substantial enough to handle 35 watts (or 55 watts) each. I have never seen an HID kit setup in this manner, though its always something I felt was possible but not a good idea.

I'd like to hear from anyone else who has used this setup on how it plays. I'd also love to see the voltage before and after the couplings to see what the drop across the diodes is.
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Old 05-26-2011, 05:42 PM
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I spent some time figureing it out and was able to plug it in,the left one worked for a few minutes on low beam only no high beam at all but it did work with the daytime running lights.When i installed the right side and checked it neither of them worked at all and the left fuse blew.I swapped the fuses and it blew again.Cant get the left side to work again and never did get the right side working even after trying different ballasts.Now i am out of fuses and have no headlights but before i ran out of fuses i double checked the old halogens and they still work fine.
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Old 05-26-2011, 05:48 PM
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Well that's another problem right there. You have DRL's, which are incompatible without some additional steps and parts. However, that should not be causing the fuses to pop. They would just not work or flicker. I'm really not surprised this isn't working right even without the DRL issue. I'm also surprised you got this setup from GG.
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Old 05-26-2011, 05:52 PM
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This is the second set he has sent me now.The drl's are an easy fix got a couple options for them.
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Old 05-26-2011, 05:57 PM
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Well there are ONLY two options to get around the DRL issue.

1. Have the ford dealer plug in and program them off. They won't since you live in Canada and it is required equipment.

2. Put a 4500+uf capacitor on each of the low beam power power and ground wires. This capacitor will smooth out the PWM to a constant level as if it wasn't there. You will NEED the standard relay harness for this as you can't pull that kind of current passed the capacitor and expect it to work right.

So, basically, what you have there will not work and can not work.
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:01 PM
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I was going to reroute the DRL's to the corner markers but like i said they seemed to work alright for a couple minutes,or at least the left one did.
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If you re-route them to the corner lights.... then how do you propose to turn the headlights on????
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:07 PM
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I have no idea,I dont imagine its done through the switch,The dealer was going to do it so its probly a computer thing.Their suggestion.
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:11 PM
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They're on crack. The DRL power is routed through the low beam circuit. You can't connect them to something else and magically have the low beams come on some other way. Whoever you talked to at the dealer is an idiot. The only thing they can do is plug into the computer and deprogram the DRL's completely. They probably won't since it is required equipment in canada.

You're going to need to get a real HID hi/lo kit and two capacitors or DRL fixer kit that you can plug in and does the same thing without you having to splice it.
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:13 PM
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DRL's are on the high beams.
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Old 05-26-2011, 06:18 PM
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Are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure they use the low beams for DRL.
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