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Old 05-13-2011, 05:11 PM
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Default WTF With these Monitors and Smog... HELP

I need Help Bad...
Today I went to go get my truck smogged Again and they performed a monitor Check... Well I did not pass Again for the Same Monitors as Before not being Ready....

This happened a few months ago when I first tried to get it smogged. I performed the Drive Cycles and it didn't work.... This time I replaced the Computer and had it flashed. I drove the 60 miles like they said to do. I went in today and it did not pass because of the same Monitors.
Do any of You Have any Idea WTF is going on....
I will place all info Down Below....
I need help fast due to my Reg. over due 5 months now. And ready to put a bullet in the head over this damn Truck.

I Need 2 To be Ready to Pass Smog
also my Smog Numbers in the test are all under max

1996 Ranger XLT
3.0 V6 5 speed
California Smog
Just Changed the Computer
Monitor that are not ready :
1) Catalyst
2) Oxygen Sensor
3) Oxygen Sensor Heater
4) EGR System

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Old 05-13-2011, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: WTF With these Monitors and Smog... HELP

how many miles are on it/is your check engine light on?
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Old 05-14-2011, 04:31 AM
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207000 miles

and the Check Light gos off after I start the truck....
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Old 05-14-2011, 10:19 AM
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Default Re: WTF With these Monitors and Smog... HELP

I don't know what you mean by "monitors". Are you saying when they hook up there OBD II connector to your truck that it tells them something is wrong ? If that's thecase you should be scanning it yourself with a scanner at an auto-parts store for free andchecking out what they are failing out for.

BY THE WAY, All 4 systems you listed are heat-dependant, meaning they only work effectively when the truck is warmed up/at operating temperature. So if you weren't at temp that would happen. That's why when you drive up to emissions they have a sign saying "make sure to leave vehicle running while waiting. Keep engine at operating temperature" . Well that, and they are bastards that want to waste fuel : )

I'm very firmiliar with the emissions laws/getting them to pass here in CO (we adopt california's laws every year, so they are the same here)

Please post your "sniffer" numbers so we know what's going on here.
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Old 05-14-2011, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: WTF With these Monitors and Smog... HELP

Monitors meaning that the sensors are not responding as if it were cold as stated above. The monitors are running when the car has reached OT (operating temp). The car would be warm anyways because the OBD test isn't performed until after the running test on the dyne so the car would be warm regardless.
I work at the State Smog Referee. If you want I can check the way to smog your truck because when OBDII came out, some of the trucks have the connector for OBDII but it needs to be tested as OBDI. That is why these monitors aren't responding because they can't lol I see it all the time. I'll look into it on Monday and post up in the evening.

Also, keep the receipt for that new computer or any repairs you made to fix the problem. I'll post up later as to why =]

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Old 05-14-2011, 04:47 PM
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P.S. can you post a pic of your underhood emissions label? i might be able to tell from that.
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Old 05-17-2011, 02:59 PM
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On the beginning part of your VIN do you have a W or a U?
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Old 05-19-2011, 04:16 PM
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Hey Thank You... Im sorry i took forever to respond... I will get the pics today... where are you located

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I'm headed out now and will input all that i find... Anything else........... I just got a new Thermostat that's Factory temp (190) and I'm installing today... I'm not sure what in there now.... my temp gage sits way under Middle... i will post a pic... and maybe a video
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Old 05-19-2011, 07:57 PM
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im in Ontario.

does the beginning of your vin have u or a w??

for the thermostat make sure it was installed right not backwards.
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Old 05-19-2011, 09:52 PM
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im in ontario.

Does the beginning of your vin have u or a w??

For the thermostat make sure it was installed right not backwards.


does that happen ???? Lol well the mecinisium is on the bottom going into the intake....

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Vin - 1 f t c r 1 4 u x t p a 39213

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well the old Thermostat was a 197 and looked Factory..... i just put a 195 in and that's the highest that they had in the system.... And it didn't move the needle any higher
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Old 05-19-2011, 10:25 PM
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heres the Pics
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Old 05-19-2011, 10:57 PM
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http://www.autotap.com/techlibrary/o...ns_testing.asp

I found out that the 96-98 Mitsubishi's have issues and I know the computer in the Rangers are the same as the Mitsubishi's
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Old 05-20-2011, 08:31 AM
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i looked into it and yours does require OBDII. Do you have an O2 sensor after your cat?

could be a computer issue. how much was your replacement computer?

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Old 05-20-2011, 04:29 PM
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i looked into it and yours does require OBDII. Do you have an O2 sensor after your cat?

could be a computer issue. how much was your replacement computer?
The Computer cost me around $250 and I had it Flashed.....

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That's where the Needle sits on my temp gage in The Pic of the Temp Gage...
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Old 05-22-2011, 09:19 PM
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The Computer cost me around $250 and I had it Flashed.....

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That's where the Needle sits on my temp gage in The Pic of the Temp Gage...
The thermostat looks to be stuck open.
Do you have an O2 behind the cat??
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