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Old 04-25-2011, 05:49 PM
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Default 24 hr trickle charged battery...still dead

My old 1996 Mazda pickup has been parked outside all winter. Last year, I had noticed that the truck wouldn't start if the truck wasn't in use every 5-7 days. Haven't been able to diagnose the problem...either parasitic battery drain or a problem with the charging system (alternator?). Used the trickle charger last year...no problems.

A couple of days ago, I had put on a 2A trickle charger via the cigerette light socket. It was connected for about 24 hours. Tried unsuccessfully to start the truck this morning. Still dead.

Do I need a new battery? The battery, left in the truck all winter, is only 2-3 years old. Winter temps got down to minus 30 to minus 35 deg Celsius (-22 to -31 deg F).

This weekend, I am planning to trickle charge it for a couple of days to see if it makes a difference. Don't really want to put much $$$ in an old truck for pleasure driving only.

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Old 04-25-2011, 06:06 PM
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Default Re: 24 hr trickle charged battery...still dead

Battery has been completely drained several times and now it won't hold a charge.
Speaks for itself. Doesn't matter how new or old it is.

You can put it an a desulphating charger but that would cost as much as a new battery.
Just do the rule of thumb, take your battery to wherever you'll buy the battery, to be load tested. So you can be sure.
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Old 04-25-2011, 06:41 PM
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Default Re: 24 hr trickle charged battery...still dead

Sounds like that was a bit much for a trickle charger to handle. Have you tried using a regular charger to give it a nice boost.
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Old 04-25-2011, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: 24 hr trickle charged battery...still dead

Thanks for the replies.

A 2A trickle charge is all I have. I am not very mechanical.

Costco will have the cheapest batteries around.

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Old 04-25-2011, 07:02 PM
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Let them check it out, and If you have an Advance around they have pretty good chargers and testers. I know they give you a good printout if the battery is at least 12 volts, and if its testing around 12 volts with low cranking amps, the battery is dead
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: 24 hr trickle charged battery...still dead

If you put a defibrillator on a dead body in rigor and decomposing, it won't come back to life either. Your battery is shot. Time for a new one.
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:06 PM
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^^ Quote worthy!!!!
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: 24 hr trickle charged battery...still dead

Since it's a beater with or without the battery, I am still planning to trickle charge this coming weekend. If it's toast, it's toast. Trying to spend as least $$$ as I can.

Likely still a problem with the parasitic battery drain or charging system/alternator.

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Old 04-25-2011, 07:26 PM
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No it's not likely a problem with the alternator or charging system at all since the engine would have to be running for that to present itself. Nor a problem with parasitic drain since there are much more likely scenarios. You left a 3yr old battery sitting in it all winter in -25 degree temperatures. What do you expect it to do, shit electrons??

But if you don't believe me and made up your mind before posting this thread, put a new battery in it (since it is dead), start it up, and see what the voltage is with the engine running. You should have 13.2-14.2 volts with the engine running.
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Old 04-25-2011, 08:15 PM
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No it's not likely a problem with the alternator or charging system at all since the engine would have to be running for that to present itself. Nor a problem with parasitic drain since there are much more likely scenarios. You left a 3yr old battery sitting in it all winter in -25 degree temperatures. What do you expect it to do, shit electrons??

But if you don't believe me and made up your mind before posting this thread, put a new battery in it (since it is dead), start it up, and see what the voltage is with the engine running. You should have 13.2-14.2 volts with the engine running.
This is the second winter for the old pickup. The first winter was about 4 months long...and it was relatively mild. This past winter was the second, more snow and a bit colder....about six months long.

The parasitic battery drain, alternator or whatever has been an ongoing problem from last summer. Should have bought the battery and stored it indoors....too late now.

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Old 04-25-2011, 08:31 PM
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This is the second winter for the old pickup. The first winter was about 4 months long...and it was relatively mild. This past winter was the second, more snow and a bit colder....about six months long.

The parasitic battery drain, alternator or whatever has been an ongoing problem from last summer. Should have bought the battery and stored it indoors....too late now.

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You're not grasping this. Automotive starting batteries, when left hooked up for long periods of time will die. This is severely exasperated in the extreme cold. It doesn't matter how many moons the winter was or how much it snowed. It's a dead battery. There is nothing diabolical about it. It happens all the time. Don't try to make it into something worse.
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Old 04-25-2011, 09:16 PM
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You could have bought a brand new battery and put it in the truck before the winter, it would still be dead. When you let a battery sit for extended periods of time, it dies. There's no way around it.
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Old 04-25-2011, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: 24 hr trickle charged battery...still dead

Just so you're aware, if the battery sits in the truck for extended periods of time without the engine running, it will die.

I figured I'd keep the repetition train rolling. Kind of a failing of mine.
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Old 04-25-2011, 10:18 PM
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Maybe about the 5th time somebody will get it. Lol
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Old 05-02-2011, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: 24 hr trickle charged battery...still dead

After trickle charging over 2-1/3 days on the weekend, I had managed to start up the truck and drive around town for about an hour.

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