Ford Ranger Forum - Forums for Ford Ranger enthusiasts!

Go Back   Ford Ranger Forum - Forums for Ford Ranger enthusiasts! > >
Forgot Password? Join Us!

Welcome to Ford Ranger Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread

  #1  
Old 02-09-2011, 06:44 PM
turbographx turbographx is offline
Ford Tough
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 273
Default looking for an electrical guru! anyone up for the task?

Okay, I'm trying to wire my replacement mirrors. Yes they are aftermarket.
The problem that I am running into is, the factory mirrors only have three (3) wires per mirror. the replacements have four (4) per mirror.
I have the diagram for the factory mirrors, as well as the diagram for the replacements.
Anyone think they can figure it out if I show the diagrams?
__________________
93 Ranger Splash. Standard cab. 3.0 v-6, 5spd.
Mods: New engine and trans. Cluster swap with tach. New headunit and speakers all around. 4x4 front valance. Led turn indicator mirrors. Crystal clear head lamps. Clear corners. 5" driving lights in Valance.
Mods to come: 'stang seats, explorer console, window tint, flowmaster cat back, some mild port work.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-09-2011, 06:45 PM
Clinton Clinton is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 14,049
Default Re: looking for an electrical guru! anyone up for the task?

Are they heated mirrors?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-09-2011, 07:02 PM
turbographx turbographx is offline
Ford Tough
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 273
Default Re: looking for an electrical guru! anyone up for the task?

No, just power and lighted.
The lighting part is easy...
Black wire ground.
Dark Blue wire to turn signal for blue LED indicator.
Dark Orange wire to turn signal for Amber indicator.
Light Blue wire to running lights for blue LED running light LED.
Orange/White wire to running lights for Amber running light LED.
The motorized part is whats giving me trouble.
Each mirror has 4 wires for the 2 motors.
Ford mirrors only use 3 wires for the 2 motors.
__________________
93 Ranger Splash. Standard cab. 3.0 v-6, 5spd.
Mods: New engine and trans. Cluster swap with tach. New headunit and speakers all around. 4x4 front valance. Led turn indicator mirrors. Crystal clear head lamps. Clear corners. 5" driving lights in Valance.
Mods to come: 'stang seats, explorer console, window tint, flowmaster cat back, some mild port work.

Last edited by turbographx; 02-09-2011 at 07:06 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-09-2011, 07:16 PM
01B3000 01B3000 is offline
Needs moar chrome....
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,319
Default Re: looking for an electrical guru! anyone up for the task?

Put up the diagrams, it could just be a spare wire or a second ground.

and i want pics of those mirrors, they sound pretty sweet
__________________
2001 Mazda B-3000 CabPlus "FX2 Off Road"| 3.0 | 5 SPD | 3 In Spindle Lift | Belltech Shackles | UltraGauge |Alpine Head / 10" Kicker Setup | Air Box Mod | Add-A-Leaf| Thrush Welded B4 Rear Wheel | Kobalt Box | Cobra 19 DX IV | Custom PA Speaker | Front/Rear Tow Receiver | 2X Aux Lights | Hideaway Strobes | Back Rack Safety Rack | Amber LED Strobes | Blue LED Strobes | 265/75/R16 General Grabber AT2's
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clinton View Post
I like little girls...........
RIP Jason
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-09-2011, 07:27 PM
turbographx turbographx is offline
Ford Tough
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 273
Default Re: looking for an electrical guru! anyone up for the task?

I had to draw out the diagram for the aftermarket mirrors as I don't have a scanner. Tried to snap a pic of it but you couldn't read the pic.
anyway, this is what the wiring for the motors looks like....



And this is what the wiring for the factory looks like....

__________________
93 Ranger Splash. Standard cab. 3.0 v-6, 5spd.
Mods: New engine and trans. Cluster swap with tach. New headunit and speakers all around. 4x4 front valance. Led turn indicator mirrors. Crystal clear head lamps. Clear corners. 5" driving lights in Valance.
Mods to come: 'stang seats, explorer console, window tint, flowmaster cat back, some mild port work.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-09-2011, 07:35 PM
Clinton Clinton is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 14,049
Default Re: looking for an electrical guru! anyone up for the task?

Now ya got me stumped! Try the process of elimination connect the wires according to the guide, leave the 4th one out, see what functions the mirrors perfom without connecting that one wire and go from there. Thats the only thing I could suggest for now. Definately post pics of those pimped out mirrors though, I would like to see them!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-09-2011, 07:39 PM
turbographx turbographx is offline
Ford Tough
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 273
Default Re: looking for an electrical guru! anyone up for the task?

I'll try that this weekend I guess when I'm off work.
If nothing else, I can use them as manual and just have the lights.
__________________
93 Ranger Splash. Standard cab. 3.0 v-6, 5spd.
Mods: New engine and trans. Cluster swap with tach. New headunit and speakers all around. 4x4 front valance. Led turn indicator mirrors. Crystal clear head lamps. Clear corners. 5" driving lights in Valance.
Mods to come: 'stang seats, explorer console, window tint, flowmaster cat back, some mild port work.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-09-2011, 07:42 PM
Clinton Clinton is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 14,049
Default Re: looking for an electrical guru! anyone up for the task?

You should be able to wire them and let them work. I know some explorers had the 4 wire set up for the puddle lights so it may be just an unnecessary wire
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-09-2011, 07:46 PM
Pbav8tor Pbav8tor is offline
Flyin High

 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,868
Default Re: looking for an electrical guru! anyone up for the task?

The aftermarket one is changing the polarity through a switch. The four wires are needed to make them function properly. The facdtory one uses a common ground.
__________________
03 RANGER EDGE 3.0
60/40 Seat Mod, Expo Full Console, Expo Mod Diff Cover, Thunderbolt Signal Mirrors, Flowmaster, Billet Grills, One Piece Halo Projector Headlights, HID Fogs w/Halos,
LED Lightbar, Euro Taillights, Interior Accents Painted, OHC, Indigo Cluster, 7" LCD Headunit, Mustang Dome Light, Manik Brush Guard
PNW CREW
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-09-2011, 07:48 PM
turbographx turbographx is offline
Ford Tough
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 273
Default Re: looking for an electrical guru! anyone up for the task?

Pbav8tor,
so there is no work around short of rewiring the whole switch?
__________________
93 Ranger Splash. Standard cab. 3.0 v-6, 5spd.
Mods: New engine and trans. Cluster swap with tach. New headunit and speakers all around. 4x4 front valance. Led turn indicator mirrors. Crystal clear head lamps. Clear corners. 5" driving lights in Valance.
Mods to come: 'stang seats, explorer console, window tint, flowmaster cat back, some mild port work.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-09-2011, 07:58 PM
Pbav8tor Pbav8tor is offline
Flyin High

 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,868
Default Re: looking for an electrical guru! anyone up for the task?

I don't think so but maybe someone else has an idea. Don't give up yet.
__________________
03 RANGER EDGE 3.0
60/40 Seat Mod, Expo Full Console, Expo Mod Diff Cover, Thunderbolt Signal Mirrors, Flowmaster, Billet Grills, One Piece Halo Projector Headlights, HID Fogs w/Halos,
LED Lightbar, Euro Taillights, Interior Accents Painted, OHC, Indigo Cluster, 7" LCD Headunit, Mustang Dome Light, Manik Brush Guard
PNW CREW
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02-10-2011, 12:54 AM
S13minus1 S13minus1 is offline
Sideways? Sideways.
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,592
Send a message via AIM to S13minus1
Default Re: looking for an electrical guru! anyone up for the task?

it looks like hooking the two grounds up to the same wire should both work. the ford switch is whats determining positive/negative flow.
__________________
-Alex
'10 Ranger XL 2.3L Manual
Mods: Stereo, Tint, Weatherguard rain shields, Intake silencer removal, LED brake, turn signal, reverse, license plate, and dome lights, DDM HID's (currently removed), lowered, 17" wheels with spacers, Explorer autodim mirror with Autolamps, Magnaflow exhaust, Buggman LED 3rd Brake Light...
Quote:
Originally Posted by ColinS View Post
awe come on alex be a man!
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02-10-2011, 05:08 AM
turbographx turbographx is offline
Ford Tough
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 273
Default Re: looking for an electrical guru! anyone up for the task?

Quote:
Originally Posted by S13minus1 View Post
it looks like hooking the two grounds up to the same wire should both work. the ford switch is whats determining positive/negative flow.
You mean on the factory side or the aftermarket side?
Factory side, there is only one ground. (yellow)
On aftermarket side, there is no ground. Each wire is both (+) and (-) depending on desired muction.
__________________
93 Ranger Splash. Standard cab. 3.0 v-6, 5spd.
Mods: New engine and trans. Cluster swap with tach. New headunit and speakers all around. 4x4 front valance. Led turn indicator mirrors. Crystal clear head lamps. Clear corners. 5" driving lights in Valance.
Mods to come: 'stang seats, explorer console, window tint, flowmaster cat back, some mild port work.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02-10-2011, 05:48 AM
FireRanger FireRanger is offline
Blinded by the light
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 7,674
Send a message via AIM to FireRanger
Default Re: looking for an electrical guru! anyone up for the task?

You can't leave a wire out. The new mirrors require both to work for each motor. The L/R and U/D motors have two wires each. Swapping the + & - on them determines which direction the motor turns. You can't leave one or that motor will not work at all.

The factory one probably does the same thing. BUT. Since you can only go Up/Down or left/right (not up and left at the same time for example), they have combined two of the wires since it won't matter as only one motor operates at a time.

Since you'll be using the same factory switch, you can combine two common functioning wires on the aftermarket mirrors. On both sides, tie the factory yellow to the aftermarket yellow and red. On the left, factory dark green to aftermarket white, factory purple to aftermarket Blue. On the right side, factory red to aftermarket white, factory dark blue to aftermarket blue.

If after doing that, the controls operate reversed, you will have redo it with the factory yellow tied to the aftermarket blue and white. It's a crapshoot guess which way will give you the right direction since the diagrams don't indicate what polarity is what direction.
__________________
(Formerly)
FireRanger
2003 Edge 4.0 4wd

How to: Aux light wiring, relays, & fuses
Info: 300+ intake threads here on FRF
Info: HID Projectors
How To: NO HEAT Troubleshooting Guide
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02-10-2011, 03:13 PM
turbographx turbographx is offline
Ford Tough
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 273
Default Re: looking for an electrical guru! anyone up for the task?

FireRanger,
Sweet man!
Thank you a ton!
Will be attempting this over the weekend. (if weather allows)
__________________
93 Ranger Splash. Standard cab. 3.0 v-6, 5spd.
Mods: New engine and trans. Cluster swap with tach. New headunit and speakers all around. 4x4 front valance. Led turn indicator mirrors. Crystal clear head lamps. Clear corners. 5" driving lights in Valance.
Mods to come: 'stang seats, explorer console, window tint, flowmaster cat back, some mild port work.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Help Mr. Ranger Guru!! HolyChikin Interior Tech 6 06-29-2010 02:02 PM
Tedious task of handwashing frame and undercarriage dixie_boysles Vehicle Snapshots 9 04-24-2010 05:35 AM
in need of electrical guru RoadDawg Electrical Tech 8 12-03-2009 11:53 AM
O.K. Need a Ranger Guru here please 02'4.04x4 General Tech 15 09-07-2009 09:19 PM
daunting task of cleaning back of wheels and tires dixie_boysles Wheels and Tires 7 07-21-2009 09:45 PM