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Old 12-02-2010, 09:48 PM
sam1030 sam1030 is offline
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Smile Engine will NOT run But will turn over and over

This is on a 1989 Ranger 4 cylinder distributor less two coil packs

I have replace Computer and ignition module and pick up sensor on the crankshaft but will NOT start

Here is what I have found so far

The wires from the ignition module to the pick up sensor check OK with a DMV meter check the EEC relay OK and the relay next to it

The wires to both coil packs to the ignition module check good

All fuses are good


With the relay in the connector for the computer has power to the Computer pins


With the computer connector in place when I check to see if I have power to the coil packs the one on the right side coil pack flashes when the engine is turning over but the left coil pack is DEAD it has power but dose not flash

What I mean when I say it flashes is with a test light on the + side of the Battery and the outer pins on the Coil Packs One note with the computer not hook up the right side coil pack will still flash when the engine is turning over
this part I do not understand how this could be with the computer not hook up looking at the wiring diagram

Has any one run in to this problem before
Thanks to any one that can help

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Old 12-02-2010, 11:13 PM
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Smile Re: Engine will NOT run But will turn over and over

Dose any one have any ideas

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Old 12-02-2010, 11:21 PM
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Default Re: Engine will NOT run But will turn over and over

the coil packs have igniter boxes right?
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Old 12-02-2010, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: Engine will NOT run But will turn over and over

NO

What are these igniter boxes

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Old 12-03-2010, 04:15 AM
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Default Re: Engine will NOT run But will turn over and over

check your timing Belt
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Old 12-03-2010, 05:35 AM
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Well my first idea is to stop using big giant text or people are just going to ignore you for being obnoxious. My second idea is to have some patience. See, as human beings, we do sometimes go to sleep at night. Whining about not getting an immediate response in the middle of the night is rude and those who didn't ignore you due the giant text will ignore you for being an ass.

So anyway, you should stop blindly throwing money and parts at the truck when you don't even know what is wrong. You're wasting time and keystrokes. Pull a spark plug out, ground the side of it to the block, crank the engine, and see if you get spark. Also, now would be a good time to test fuel pressure.
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Old 12-03-2010, 05:37 AM
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Well my first idea is to stop using big giant text or people are just going to ignore you for being obnoxious. My second idea is to have some patience. See, as human beings, we do sometimes go to sleep at night. Whining about not getting an immediate respond in the middle of the night is rude and those didn't ignore you due the giant text will ignore you for being an ass.

So anyway, you should stop blindly throwing money and parts at the truck when you don't even know what is wrong. You're wasting time and keystrokes. Pull a spark plug out, ground the side of it to the block, crank the engine, and see if you get spark. Also, now would be a good time to test fuel pressure.
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Old 12-03-2010, 06:29 AM
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Unhappy Re: Engine will NOT run But will turn over and over

I have check the timing belt which is OK

I have check to see if I have a spark that way and I do not

This is the reason that I am here asking what to check next

as far as that goes

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Well my first idea is to stop using big giant text or people are just going to ignore you for being obnoxious
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Thanks for the info

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My second idea is to have some patience.
I seem to very little of this lately

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See, as human beings, we do sometimes go to sleep at night.
I was NOT asking for an immediate respond because was in the middle of the night


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Whining about not getting an immediate respond in the middle of the night
This was not NEED


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So anyway, you should stop blindly throwing money and parts at the truck when you don't even know what is wrong. You're wasting time and keystrokes.
This dose not help ANY because I have had this same problem before with the Computer and pick up sensor on the crankshaft
have been replaced at the the dealer before when the truck was about a year old or so

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bis rude and those didn't ignore you due the giant text will ignore you for being an ass
There is no reason for this part seeing how this is my first time on this forum

I am also on a another forum where what and the way I said it and the way I post would not got me all of this
And BTW on this forum
if you are rude and or obnoxious or not great full for the help that was given
some one would have PM you first before they would have done all of this on the FORUM for every one to see


And saying all of this

I am Sorry if any one think that I was rude or obnoxious or Whining

NOW for for being an ass you have NOT seen any of this in what I have posted here in this POST but I sure do know how to be one

This is not the placed to do this if you are wanting some one to help you

Now If speaking your mind will get me from this FORUM this would be sad place for every one

I surly hope that WE all get on with what we are all here to DO is get our trucks back on the road again

Now when I can help some one I will I have been jack of all trade and a master of NONE

but I have work on a lot of different think in the past like air conditioner for car truck and homes and the like I have done building maintenance with electrical trouble shooting rebuilt car and truck and lawn more engine and starter and alternator

I built and write programing code for micro controller for a hobby this what I mean about a jack of all trade and a master of none

BTW I once had a ASE in auto electric also was a car mechanic many moon ago

Thanks to any one that can really help

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Old 12-03-2010, 10:24 AM
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Sam, have some patience man. everyone here is very willing to help but being impatient and demanding usually doesnt get you very far when youre asking others for free advise. Do the things that Fireranger suggested and let us know what you find out, hopefully someone will have an answer for you. if not oh well, thats the name of the forum game i guess.
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Old 12-03-2010, 04:05 PM
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blah blah blah
Most of your response made no sense at all. I literally got dizzy trying to read it. You aren't helping yourself.
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Old 12-03-2010, 09:55 PM
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Default Re: Engine will NOT run But will turn over and over

check the coil pack if you havnt already, i have a switch in my demolition derby car that turns off the coil pack, when you turn it off and crank the engine three our four times then flip that switch my old 82 t bird fired right up every time... gives a sotra big jolt to the engine.
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