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Old 03-16-2017, 08:55 PM
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So I'm wiring up my police radar detector, I have the power going to the radar detector from the radio fuse. Got one of those fancy add a fuse things, but where to ground it in that general area? I know I can just drill but I have to leave on a trip after school and want to do it quickly and easily. Thank you all for advise in advance !

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Old 03-17-2017, 12:05 AM
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There should be a factory ground to the left of the emergency brake pedal. It'll be green. I can't remember if you have to take the trim off to see it.

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Old 03-17-2017, 04:26 AM
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You do realize that radar detectors are worthless against modern police radar units made in the past 20 years.
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Old 03-17-2017, 04:57 AM
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Depends where you live old man. I don't advocate them but some stations still use old equipment. Yet again another worthless response from you.

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Old 03-17-2017, 05:34 AM
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You do realize that radar detectors are worthless against modern police radar units made in the past 20 years.
We've had them in all of our vehicles for the last 5 years. So while it very well may be true for your area, in my area and on the highway they work out well for us. 👍
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Depends where you live old man. I don't advocate them but some stations still use old equipment. Yet again another worthless response from you.

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My fuse box is on the passenger side.. not the left, otherwise I'd just ground it to like the steering column or something around there like I did in my OBS. It's weird being over there but it is. I was thinking the glovebox mounts but those are painted if I'm not mistaken..

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Old 03-17-2017, 01:02 PM
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The entire vehicle chassis is Earth ground.

Where did you run your wires? Out to the side of the dash, above in the headliner down to the A arm pillar? Tucked it behind the radio bezel? best bet is to keep the ground short as possible, generally scraping any painted surface area a bit so the raw metal is exposed, use a self tapper/stinger point screw and if possible a star washer doesnt hurt to keep things simple. This should also eliminate any ground loops from your radio/amplifier if you have such things too.

Unless your laying out some formal fused distribution, relays, and grounding lug situation, it moderately overly simple.
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Old 03-17-2017, 01:28 PM
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There should be a factory ground to the left of the emergency brake pedal. It'll be green. I can't remember if you have to take the trim off to see it.
WAYYYYyy to far to ground something when there are in both kick panels grounding lugs for all of the factory wiring needs such as ECM, Fuse box.. etc..

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You do realize that radar detectors are worthless against modern police radar units made in the past 20 years.
Where I have to agree in the respect that (a) I think it makes you either paranoid every time it beeps or it dulls your sense of situational awareness and prowess very low. To dependent on a machine or technology to hone what should be a "natural" skill and defeats it.

(b) I dont generally worry about police contacts.. lol I wish I would have recorded the last encounter where I begged for the ticket..

There is a reason why when you're situational awareness is high and the hairs on your arms and neck raise up for a fight or flight purpose.. going a bit on the edge, my point being in many cases I got more tickets when I had a radar detector than I did without it. Its a false sense of security that you're likely doing something unlawful to begin with and therefore builds an excuse for justification or validation.

Having lived in an area for many years (before I knew better my rights and had a better understanding of the law) I know that there are areas where law enforcement is 'Bored' and have nothing better to do and revenue generation is a tactic to justify a paycheck drawn on the tax payers dime from public servants. If you know your rights, and the law, you dont need the excuses and or a radar detector but that's my perspective and everyone does what works best for them. Me personally, Ill argue the law on the side of the road, the court room, and if necessary, I'll play the jail game too. I'll get paid in the end.

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Depends where you live old man. I don't advocate them but some stations still use old equipment. Yet again another worthless response from you.
NOTE: Realizing your non-advocacy.. he did say "against modern police radar units made in the past 20 years" Which means if your speeding (lol) and you get tagged by laser, your getting a ticket regardless. K & X bands maybe a fighting chance that the unit wasnt calibrated in the last 2 months, the officer NON certified for use, a larger vehicle was next to you.. etc..

Radar detectors work ONLY on the premise that other traffic is making a trigger happy officer give himself away a mile or so early in order for you to slow down. Most cops have or had a radar detector, they aren't stupid as they often appear. I knew a cop that would sit in adjacent parking lots of another lot that was notorious for falsing and tag people left and right. Or the cop that turns it on for a brief second and back off among other ways to still be tagging folks with and without radar detectors.

In fact I find it excruciating funny that the Bell Radar detector company makes both sides of the fence radar devices and profits from both spectrum's which in my book is worse than the cops using them in the first place.

People such as myself doen't necessarily always comment because its seen as ignorance by others, sometimes comments are based off of experiences in life whether they may be recollected poorly or not. There opinions of sorts, not aww stricken laws of facts always. It is up to the reader to have the burden of proving through research whether that be written documentation or by verifying sources at ground zero against ones own experiences.

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Old 03-17-2017, 05:11 PM
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WAYYYYyy to far to ground something when there are in both kick panels grounding lugs for all of the factory wiring needs such as ECM, Fuse box.. etc..



Where I have to agree in the respect that (a) I think it makes you either paranoid every time it beeps or it dulls your sense of situational awareness and prowess very low. To dependent on a machine or technology to hone what should be a "natural" skill and defeats it.

(b) I dont generally worry about police contacts.. lol I wish I would have recorded the last encounter where I begged for the ticket..

There is a reason why when you're situational awareness is high and the hairs on your arms and neck raise up for a fight or flight purpose.. going a bit on the edge, my point being in many cases I got more tickets when I had a radar detector than I did without it. Its a false sense of security that you're likely doing something unlawful to begin with and therefore builds an excuse for justification or validation.

Having lived in an area for many years (before I knew better my rights and had a better understanding of the law) I know that there are areas where law enforcement is 'Bored' and have nothing better to do and revenue generation is a tactic to justify a paycheck drawn on the tax payers dime from public servants. If you know your rights, and the law, you dont need the excuses and or a radar detector but that's my perspective and everyone does what works best for them. Me personally, Ill argue the law on the side of the road, the court room, and if necessary, I'll play the jail game too. I'll get paid in the end.



NOTE: Realizing your non-advocacy.. he did say "against modern police radar units made in the past 20 years" Which means if your speeding (lol) and you get tagged by laser, your getting a ticket regardless. K & X bands maybe a fighting chance that the unit wasnt calibrated in the last 2 months, the officer NON certified for use, a larger vehicle was next to you.. etc..

Radar detectors work ONLY on the premise that other traffic is making a trigger happy officer give himself away a mile or so early in order for you to slow down. Most cops have or had a radar detector, they aren't stupid as they often appear. I knew a cop that would sit in adjacent parking lots of another lot that was notorious for falsing and tag people left and right. Or the cop that turns it on for a brief second and back off among other ways to still be tagging folks with and without radar detectors.

In fact I find it excruciating funny that the Bell Radar detector company makes both sides of the fence radar devices and profits from both spectrum's which in my book is worse than the cops using them in the first place.

People such as myself doen't necessarily always comment because its seen as ignorance by others, sometimes comments are based off of experiences in life whether they may be recollected poorly or not. There opinions of sorts, not aww stricken laws of facts always. It is up to the reader to have the burden of proving through research whether that be written documentation or by verifying sources at ground zero against ones own experiences.

make sense?


You are wasting your time educating that punk. The internet tough guy is just a teenager who just reached puberty. The laser radar they use is such a narrow beam and instantaneous too.........if it goes off you are had unless it's reading a false signal.
What do I know, my oldest son is just a FHP Officer.
I do find it hard to believe that some states are so backwards ass that they still use fixed radar....but maybe the poorer states do.
All agencies in Florida have used laser for decades.
As to the OP's question....all you need to do is ground it to the nearest metal bracket.
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Old 03-19-2017, 12:00 PM
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Yea, I'm sure...

I loved being schooled by kids driving for 7 mos in their Honda Civic hand me down that is older than them on Hondatech too.

A lot of times I had been driving and disassembling/reassembling and repairing/upgrading Honda's longer than they been alive but they're gonna take me to task of putting on a flame retardant suit and listen to some kid with a learners permit try to school me..

Sometimes it changes the perspective of beliefs I have concerning "after" birth abortions at the age of 16

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The entire vehicle chassis is Earth ground.

Where did you run your wires? Out to the side of the dash, above in the headliner down to the A arm pillar? Tucked it behind the radio bezel? best bet is to keep the ground short as possible, generally scraping any painted surface area a bit so the raw metal is exposed, use a self tapper/stinger point screw and if possible a star washer doesnt hurt to keep things simple. This should also eliminate any ground loops from your radio/amplifier if you have such things too.

Unless your laying out some formal fused distribution, relays, and grounding lug situation, it moderately overly simple.

Begs to be addressed and answered.. unless through the chatter you've completed this task?
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Old 03-19-2017, 12:23 PM
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Like Undrstm8ed asked, did you get the detector set up?

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Old 03-20-2017, 07:16 AM
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Yea, I'm sure...

I loved being schooled by kids driving for 7 mos in their Honda Civic hand me down that is older than them on Hondatech too.

A lot of times I had been driving and disassembling/reassembling and repairing/upgrading Honda's longer than they been alive but they're gonna take me to task of putting on a flame retardant suit and listen to some kid with a learners permit try to school me..

Sometimes it changes the perspective of beliefs I have concerning "after" birth abortions at the age of 16

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Begs to be addressed and answered.. unless through the chatter you've completed this task?
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Like Undrstm8ed asked, did you get the detector set up?

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Yes I did, while I greatly appreciate the input from the peanut gallery about how a radar detector isn't worth it, it's saved my rear end more times than I can count. To answer your question, yes I did figure it out however last night when i was upside down in the cab swapping fuses around to make it ignition powered I discovered that there is a perfect ground right next to the fusebox inside the cubby. So rather than bumping off the 12v outlet (not recommended, I know. It was 3am) like I did now for ground I think I'm going to rewire it sooner or later. Thank you all for your input regardless of view. 👍🙂

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Yea, I'm sure...

I loved being schooled by kids driving for 7 mos in their Honda Civic hand me down that is older than them on Hondatech too.

A lot of times I had been driving and disassembling/reassembling and repairing/upgrading Honda's longer than they been alive but they're gonna take me to task of putting on a flame retardant suit and listen to some kid with a learners permit try to school me..

Sometimes it changes the perspective of beliefs I have concerning "after" birth abortions at the age of 16

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^^^^^ I've found that when you learn how to "use children" for your benefit and enhancement of your driving pleasure, and they don't even realize you are doing it to them, things are much more fun. In this case, setting them up for police profiling and pretextual traffic stops (of the child). I've also found that children absolve nearly all need for laser, radar, visual, etc detection devices.

Grounds....location suggestion....to the greatest extent possible, locate new grounds and any other wire tapping where there is an existing ground, connection, etc. The reason? If you ever have to go back and do and service work, it's nice to NOT have to go on a witch hunt guessing and wondering where things are.
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Ill avoid the traffic violations and law topics as Ive found myself to have already been labeled anti establishment and on another level when it comes to matters of law. or should I use the argument of being lawful v. Legal/Illegal
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