Heel Toe anyone?

thatranger · #1 01-13-2013, 12:24 AM

Couldn't find any post/threads on this topic in this forums. So I would like to ask if any Ranger owner is able to heel-toe downshift their rangers. To myself, the gas pedal seems way to rear set to allow heel-toe downshifts.

IDM · #2 01-13-2013, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by thatranger

Couldn't find any post/threads on this topic in this forums. So I would like to ask if any Ranger owner is able to heel-toe downshift their rangers. To myself, the gas pedal seems way to rear set to allow heel-toe downshifts.

I can't do it in mine. I just brake, rev match, and get back on the brakes. Too far back, like you said.

Deathtrap · #3 01-13-2013, 08:36 AM

Too far back.

Nmarzoli04 · #4 01-13-2013, 08:49 AM

Not sure why you would need to anyways in a ranger haha. On a side note, does it ever bother any of you guys that most people don't really know how to drive stick the correct way? Most people I know never downshift correctly.

johnday · #5 01-13-2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nmarzoli04

Not sure why you would need to anyways in a ranger haha. On a side note, does it ever bother any of you guys that most people don't really know how to drive stick the correct way? Most people I know never downshift correctly.

What is the "correct" way?

IDM · #6 01-13-2013, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by johnday

What is the "correct" way?

After watching my dad drive Mustangs for so many years growing up, I picked up rev matching my downshifts from him. Some people who drive stick don't rev match and once they release the clutch it jerks a bit.

ranger024x4 · #7 01-13-2013, 01:25 PM

I find it very easy to heel toe in my 03.

Nmarzoli04 · #8 01-13-2013, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by IDM

After watching my dad drive Mustangs for so many years growing up, I picked up rev matching my downshifts from him. Some people who drive stick don't rev match and once they release the clutch it jerks a bit.

Yes I meant this. Matching revs on downshifts

johnday · #9 01-13-2013, 05:20 PM

Matching revs on downshifting, I see what you two mean. Now, in my big truck, 18 speed, I do that, it's the only way you're going to get it in gear going down, or up. In my Ranger, or a car I don't, I just let the whole thing slow down to where it's pretty close, clutch in, shift, and ease the clutch out. I don't get any slamming or jerking. BTW, in 45 years of driving, I've only replaced one clutch, and that was when I was young and even dumber than now. Transmissions, never. Ujoints? I'll admit a few, after fourwheeling a Power Wagon I once had, with dry ujoints.
Would someone explain the heel/toe thing to this olde grandfather?

RxvWhite · #10 01-13-2013, 05:47 PM

Who moved this into the drivetrain tech forum? Makes no sense to me, it was in the general dis.

Someone should move it back.

On a related note, no, heel-toe does not seem to work.... or at least... well, it may be possible with enough practice to learn the placement of the pedals and adapt to it, but I wouldn't recommend learning this particular skill, as if you apply it to other vehicles, you may have to relearn it (but without saying that you have to relearn it when it differs between vehicles regardless but to a larger extent).

Nmarzoli04 · #11 01-13-2013, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by johnday

Matching revs on downshifting, I see what you two mean. Now, in my big truck, 18 speed, I do that, it's the only way you're going to get it in gear going down, or up. In my Ranger, or a car I don't, I just let the whole thing slow down to where it's pretty close, clutch in, shift, and ease the clutch out. I don't get any slamming or jerking. BTW, in 45 years of driving, I've only replaced one clutch, and that was when I was young and even dumber than now. Transmissions, never. Ujoints? I'll admit a few, after fourwheeling a Power Wagon I once had, with dry ujoints.
Would someone explain the heel/toe thing to this olde grandfather?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heel-and-toe

Here you go.

Deathtrap · #12 01-13-2013, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RxvWhite

Who moved this into the drivetrain tech forum? Makes no sense to me, it was in the general dis.

Someone should move it back.

On a related note, no, heel-toe does not seem to work.... or at least... well, it may be possible with enough practice to learn the placement of the pedals and adapt to it, but I wouldn't recommend learning this particular skill, as if you apply it to other vehicles, you may have to relearn it (but without saying that you have to relearn it when it differs between vehicles regardless but to a larger extent).

I think it should got to interior tech. My heel AND toes are usually all inside the vehicle when driving.

johnday · #13 01-13-2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nmarzoli04

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heel-and-toe

Here you go.

Thanks, seems like I recall rally car/offroad drivers using that style, but I think it had a different name years ago. I could be wrong.

SalRanger2 · #14 01-13-2013, 06:53 PM

i do it alot. i engine brake alot so to say and its nice if you have to jump down a few gears. (from 5th to 3rd). or when i feel like a road racer lol. just smoother driving too

thatranger · #15 01-13-2013, 07:10 PM

After some research, some say that if you can't, then you need to break harder so the pedals are more even so you can heel toe. Well even with lightly heavy breaking I still can't since the gas is too far back (zip tie mod done already fyi). I wish someone would share their tick to heel-toe in rangers without changing the pedals.