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Old 09-03-2017, 02:20 PM
Jimmyspy Jimmyspy is offline
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Default Front pinion seal (dana 35 SLA)

Does anybody know if the pinion seal on the Dana 35 (1998 and newer 4wds) is the same as one of the outer seals? Trying to track down a front pinion seal and the local auto parts stores are only showing the two outer seals. Autozone does list one of the national brand seals as "front outer (front pinion)", which seems weird. Rock auto shows a Dana seal that says it's specifically for the pinion shaft, but I'm surprised nobody else has one.
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Old 09-04-2017, 04:18 AM
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If this was my truck I would never just remove and replace the pinion seal because you need to set the preload on the pinion bearings and with the Dana 35 you should also replace the lock nut on the pinion shaft.

To do this job right the entire assembly needs to be taken apart, all the bearings should be inspected and or replaced plus all the seals should be replaced so why not spend a few bucks more and have nearly everything you may need with you when you start the job.

Here is nearly everything I would install in one convenient kit except for the Differential Crosshaft Bolt I am not sure if this is the best price you can find on the kit I posted a link for an example.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Motive-Gear/683/R35FRMKT/10002/-1
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Old 09-04-2017, 07:29 AM
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If this was my truck I would never just remove and replace the pinion seal because you need to set the preload on the pinion bearings and with the Dana 35 you should also replace the lock nut on the pinion shaft. To do this job right the entire assembly needs to be taken apart, all the bearings should be inspected and or replaced plus all the seals should be replaced so why not spend a few bucks more and have nearly everything you may need with you when you start the job. Here is nearly everything I would install in one convenient kit except for the Differential Crosshaft Bolt I am not sure if this is the best price you can find on the kit I posted a link for an example. http://www.jegs.com/i/Motive-Gear/683/R35FRMKT/10002/-1

If you index the pinion nut, and count the turns as you take it off, you can put it back on in the same location. This puts effectively the same preload on the pinion bearings. I've replaced a few pinion seals using this method and have never had an issue. It by no means is the absolute best way to do things, but I'm also not gonna go rebuilding a differential every time a seal starts leaking.
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Old 09-04-2017, 07:54 AM
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I agree this job sucks to do the right way especially when your dealing with a older truck that is not worth that much effort.

Good luck with the repair.
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Old 09-04-2017, 08:45 AM
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I agree this job sucks to do the right way especially when your dealing with a older truck that is not worth that much effort. Good luck with the repair.

Thanks






Still looking for some insight on the pinion seal itself though. I went ahead and ordered the Dana seal from rockauto, but am still wondering why nobody local stocks one. Or why brands like National don't seem to make one, even though they make the outer seals.
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Old 09-04-2017, 09:56 AM
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We have parts stores like Cold Air INC that cater to the Automotive industry yet also sells to the public for more cost they have more OEM parts available in stock than the majority of the dealers, they also have way more aftermarket parts available than the big retail chain stores.

Retail stores that deal with the public tend to carry parts tools supplies etc more in tune with DIY at home repairs. which if done properly a pinion seal as you know is a PIA to do right and not typically done by the DIY vehicle owner so they save their valuable shelf space for items that sell frequently.

So if you need to pick up the part locally today or tomorrow you will have to crack open the good old fashion phone book and find a parts store that would cater to the automotive industry first but also sell to the public.

Napa used to be good but lately many of the items I asked for had to sourced from a warehouse in Miami which I would normally get the same day or the next day and always cost way more than ordering the part online.

I would suggest going to Ford yet 94 percent of the parts I asked Ford for my 2002 Ranger they stopped making. LOL

You would think a part like a pinion seal for your Dana would be available at your Ford or Lincoln dealer yet I would not be surprised if you struck out there as well.
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Old 09-04-2017, 12:06 PM
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Retail stores that deal with the public tend to carry parts tools supplies etc more in tune with DIY at home repairs. which if done properly a pinion seal as you know is a PIA to do right and not typically done by the DIY vehicle owner so they save their valuable shelf space for items that sell frequently. So if you need to pick up the part locally today or tomorrow you will have to crack open the good old fashion phone book and find a parts store that would cater to the automotive industry first but also sell to the public
That's a possibility, although autozone sells and stocks the pinion seal for the 8.8 rear, as well as the outer seals for both axels.

I agree with NAPAs unsatisfactory product stocking. Last few times I've been in there I've walked out empty handed.


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As I was complaining about NAPA, I realized that I hadn't checked to see if they had a seal. Well, according to heir website, they do carry a front pinion seal. Wether or not they stock said seal is a different story.
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Old 09-04-2017, 02:40 PM
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Yeah I hate Autozone, the last time I sent my wife to pick up a new not rebuilt master cylinder from them my wife dragged home a obviously previously installed and returned master cylinder that was still full of brake fluid ( the master cylinder left a snail trail from the counter to her car all over the back seat of our HHR then through my garage.

She never got to see the box because the jerk stuck the obviously sop and wet box in a plastic bag when he went in the back to get the master cylinder.

My wife never thought to look at it and did not notice the fluid dripping everywhere, yet when I confronted the jerk salesman he even admitted he noticed the box was wet and thought nothing of it.
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Old 09-05-2017, 06:15 PM
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Yeah I hate Autozone, the last time I sent my wife to pick up a new not rebuilt master cylinder from them my wife dragged home a obviously previously installed and returned master cylinder that was still full of brake fluid ( the master cylinder left a snail trail from the counter to her car all over the back seat of our HHR then through my garage. She never got to see the box because the jerk stuck the obviously sop and wet box in a plastic bag when he went in the back to get the master cylinder. My wife never thought to look at it and did not notice the fluid dripping everywhere, yet when I confronted the jerk salesman he even admitted he noticed the box was wet and thought nothing of it.
I know the feeling. Unfortunately, having some basic automotive knowledge isn't a requirement to work at stores like autozone or o'reillys. Every time I go into one of them I end up cringing at the "help" I'm offered.

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For future reference, I swung by NAPA today and they do indeed have a front pinion seal. The guy I talked to also said it's something they usually keep in stock.
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Old 09-06-2017, 06:37 AM
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I know the feeling. Unfortunately, having some basic automotive knowledge isn't a requirement to work at stores like autozone or o'reillys. Every time I go into one of them I end up cringing at the "help" I'm offered.

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For future reference, I swung by NAPA today and they do indeed have a front pinion seal. The guy I talked to also said it's something they usually keep in stock.
Yeah I used to use Napa a lot when I had my automotive shops in the mid 1990's they are a prime example of parts stores that cater to the Automotive trade by offering a volume discount well below retail price and even deliver parts to shops.
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Old 09-08-2017, 08:58 AM
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Default Re: Front pinion seal (dana 35 SLA)

Both the driver and passenger side seals are different than the pinion seal
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