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11-02-2012, 11:50 AM
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Replacing stock speaker system in an extended cab
I currently have the stock speaker system in my '95 Ford Ranger Ext Cab. I was noticing that the sound was very poor, so I decided to install new speakers. I was looking at getting some cheap Pyle speakers. I have included a link to the speakers on Amazon. They have a RMS wattage of 300W. I am trying to determine if I need to install an amp to help with my sound output. I am new at this, so just trying to pick the brains of people who have done it before. If you have any thoughts, or better suggestions on what to use, I would love the input.
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http://www.amazon.com/Pyle-PL573BL-Watts-3-Way-Speakers/dp/B006VFO6JO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1351882042&sr=8-3&keywords=pyle+6x8
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11-02-2012, 11:53 AM
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No you dont need a amp, are you also getting a new headunit?
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11-02-2012, 12:49 PM
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Re: Replacing stock speaker system in an extended cab
funny, i've been thinking of picking up a pair of 6x8 pyle speakers to replace my stock rear speakers, they've got pretty good reviews and seem to be what i'm looking for.
http://www.amazon.com/Pyle-PL683BL-6-Inch-Three-Way-Speakers/dp/B00022OBOM/ref=au_pf_pfg_s?ie=UTF8&Model=Ranger%7C696&n=1077068&s=car&Make=Ford%7C54&Year=2000%7C2000&vehicleType=automotive&newCar=1&carId=001
let me know how you like 'em if you get 'em, i'll do the same!
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11-02-2012, 02:01 PM
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Re: Replacing stock speaker system in an extended cab
Devin - I am going to eventually, but trying to spread out the costs right now. Is this something that should be done at the same time, or would it work to wait a little bit and replace that next.
Skylark - They seem to be good speakers for the price. I looked at the pair you have there. The only reason I am looking at the ones that I posted is that I can get a set of 4 and replace the front and back speakers at the same time. By getting the set, you actually save several dollars than you would if you bought 2 sets of 2 over time. I will let you know what I think.
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11-02-2012, 02:16 PM
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Devin - I am going to eventually, but trying to spread out the costs right now. Is this something that should be done at the same time, or would it work to wait a little bit and replace that next.
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I dont think its needed. But it will give you a better sound and a few other options.
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11-02-2012, 10:22 PM
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Re: Replacing stock speaker system in an extended cab
These speakers will be an improvement over the factory ones, but not a great choice for long term. Both sets have Piezo tweeters which will be very fatiguing over time. These tweeters make for decent sensitivity at low volume but at higher volume they will have a shrill to them. Also, not likely that their actual RMS power handling is as high as they claim which is also a good thing since it wouldn't make sense to run a 150 watt RMS speaker with only the radio power. My suspicions are that they are rating them as 150 per pair or 75 per speaker which would be better, but still a little high for your application especially if you're still using the factory radio. This is one of the most common mistakes that I hear people make because they think they need huge power handling speakers for them to be good and durable. Can't tell you how many people have walked in my store looking for new speakers that they couldn't destroy because they just blew the 300 watt Pioneers they purchased at Wally World last year with their factory radio. Then they are always amazed when I sell them a speaker with lower power handling and it's louder and lasts longer.
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11-03-2012, 01:04 PM
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Re: Replacing stock speaker system in an extended cab
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Originally Posted by hergy916
These speakers will be an improvement over the factory ones, but not a great choice for long term. Both sets have Piezo tweeters which will be very fatiguing over time. These tweeters make for decent sensitivity at low volume but at higher volume they will have a shrill to them. Also, not likely that their actual RMS power handling is as high as they claim which is also a good thing since it wouldn't make sense to run a 150 watt RMS speaker with only the radio power. My suspicions are that they are rating them as 150 per pair or 75 per speaker which would be better, but still a little high for your application especially if you're still using the factory radio. This is one of the most common mistakes that I hear people make because they think they need huge power handling speakers for them to be good and durable. Can't tell you how many people have walked in my store looking for new speakers that they couldn't destroy because they just blew the 300 watt Pioneers they purchased at Wally World last year with their factory radio. Then they are always amazed when I sell them a speaker with lower power handling and it's louder and lasts longer.
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Based on this, what would be your recommendation for front and rear speakers, without spending a fortune?
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11-03-2012, 06:16 PM
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Re: Replacing stock speaker system in an extended cab
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Those pyle speakers are trash. If you just want some replacement speakers to run off headunit power only, get some Pioneer coaxials.
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11-05-2012, 12:21 PM
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Re: Replacing stock speaker system in an extended cab
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Those pyle speakers are trash. If you just want some replacement speakers to run off headunit power only, get some Pioneer coaxials.
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The reason that I chose the Pyles is that they came in a set of 4 so I could replace both the front and the back speakers at the same time. I have not seen any Pioneer speakers that come in a set of 4. If there is a place that you know of where I can buy a set like this, that would be great to know. If not, I guess I could by 2 pairs and ship them both. I included a link to some I found on Amazon.
My question is, these speakers cost more and have a lower peak wattage output. If I were to get a new head and an amp in the future, would I be maxing out these speakers, or would they still perform better than the Pyles?
http://www.amazon.com/Pioneer-TS-G6844R-G-Series-Coaxial-Speakers/dp/B0065XBGCC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1352142724&sr=8-1&keywords=Pioneer+coaxial+6x8+speakers
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11-05-2012, 01:40 PM
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not a fan of pyles. pioneers are good for the price. you shouldn't look at max watts when buying anything audio related. Later when you get an amp, get one that will put out more than the rms of the speaker. say a speaker is 70 rms, get an amp that can do 90 or so. price difference is bc of quality. loudness doesn't have to do with watts, it has to do with the speakers sensitivity and efficiency. a 30 watt speaker can blast a 80 watt speaker if it is more efficient at reproducing sound.
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11-06-2012, 11:11 AM
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Re: Replacing stock speaker system in an extended cab
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Originally Posted by java.judge.924
The reason that I chose the Pyles is that they came in a set of 4 so I could replace both the front and the back speakers at the same time. I have not seen any Pioneer speakers that come in a set of 4. If there is a place that you know of where I can buy a set like this, that would be great to know. If not, I guess I could by 2 pairs and ship them both. I included a link to some I found on Amazon.
My question is, these speakers cost more and have a lower peak wattage output. If I were to get a new head and an amp in the future, would I be maxing out these speakers, or would they still perform better than the Pyles?
Amazon.com: Pioneer TS-G6844R G-Series 6" x 8" 2-Way Coaxial Speakers: Electronics
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Are you looking for speakers that can handle an amp or just to run off the headunit ? If you want some that will do either/or, both are way wrong choices. Look at Infinity Reference that will handle 2-60 watts RMS and have a sensitivity rating of 90+, as an example. The sensitivity allows them to work well with low power from any headunit, and the 60 watts RMS (forget peak or max anything) shows they can be powered by an external amp of 50-75 watts RMS output per channel.
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11-22-2012, 11:51 PM
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Are you looking for speakers that can handle an amp or just to run off the headunit ? If you want some that will do either/or, both are way wrong choices. Look at Infinity Reference that will handle 2-60 watts RMS and have a sensitivity rating of 90+, as an example. The sensitivity allows them to work well with low power from any headunit, and the 60 watts RMS (forget peak or max anything) shows they can be powered by an external amp of 50-75 watts RMS output per channel.
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Infinity is a great choice. Pyle is...well, a pile. People give good reviews to cheap cost.
Infinity is the best low cost/high quality speakers around.
Take it from an installer that has used just about every brand out there
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11-23-2012, 12:14 AM
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Re: Replacing stock speaker system in an extended cab
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Infinity is a great choice. Pyle is...well, a pile. People give good reviews to cheap cost.
Infinity is the best low cost/high quality speakers around.
Take it from an installer that has used just about every brand out there
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I can dig it.
I would only use Pyle speakers to mess around with or test equipment. If they blow, who cares? Doesn't matter. I would not ever use Pyle in any kind of install that I want to be some quality and last a long time. You get what you pay for.
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11-24-2012, 11:27 AM
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Re: Replacing stock speaker system in an extended cab
Just to update, I actually had someone buy the Pyles for me after I started this post. I installed all 4 into my truck. I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised. I have had them about a month now, and the sound is not bad. The highs are very crisp and clear. There is a good solid midrange. If you like a really solid thump in the bass, you will want to put some sort of sub in the system as well. These do not have much bass to speak of. However, if you plan on installing a sub, these would make good speakers for the upper ranges. I drove a 2013 Mustang GT 5.0 with a Shaker audio system in it, and I thought that the highs from these Pyle speakers would compete. There was no comparison in the lows though. I would rate them a 4.5/5 in their price level.
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11-25-2012, 03:50 PM
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Re: Replacing stock speaker system in an extended cab
Those Mustang shaker systems suck just as bad as any factory audio option.
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