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Old 03-05-2012, 02:13 AM
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should get a dual voice coil you can wire them for 4 or 2 ohms. i have tried class ab amps for years they worked but they got really hot and didnt last a long time. partly my fault but. i went with a class d amp on my last setup and its been pounding for 8 years now with no issues and doesnt even get warm to touch
No. Depends on the impedance of the voice coils and how the sub or subs are wired to the amp. A DVC 2 ohm sub can be wired as a 1 ohm or 4 ohm load to an amp. A DVC 4 ohm sub can be wired as a 2 ohm or 8 ohm load to an amp. aluminator needs a SVC 4 ohm sub if he uses the bridged output from the rear channels of a 4 channel amp. 99% of 4 channel amps are not 2 ohm stable bridged.

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Running a Pyle double din PLDN73i, Boss Phantom 2.500 amplifier, and as of 4:30PM today a Kicker comp DC12.
With 50 amps of fuse rating, your Boss amp does no more than 350 watts RMS to a 2 ohm load. Just sayin. Not sure what a DC12 is.

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Old 03-05-2012, 02:26 AM
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No. Depends on the impedance of the voice coils and how the sub or subs are wired to the amp. A DVC 2 ohm sub can be wired as a 1 ohm or 4 ohm load to an amp. A DVC 4 ohm sub can be wired as a 2 ohm or 8 ohm load to an amp. aluminator needs a SVC 4 ohm sub if he uses the bridged output from the rear channels of a 4 channel amp. 99% of 4 channel amps are not 2 ohm stable bridged.

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With 50 amps of fuse rating, your Boss amp does no more than 350 watts RMS to a 2 ohm load. Just sayin. Not sure what a DC12 is.

Dc12 is the series its just a kicker comp 12 i have one

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Old 03-05-2012, 04:20 AM
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aluminator needs a SVC 4 ohm sub if he uses the bridged output from the rear channels of a 4 channel amp.

OK following that advice, this is the final choice.It has a single 4 ohm voice coil.
With this truck the physical dimensions are the biggest criteria of choosing an amp and sub.The Ranger's cab wall has an 11 3/4" indention.This is 12 1/4" tall,so I'm gonna trim the cab wall cover 1/2" to accomodate it.http://http://www.sonicelectronix.co...ml?from=857-49
It's a 10" JL Audio W1v2 in a sealed box.
The amp I chose is a Pioneer class D(full range)75Wx4(4 ohm).The biggest factor for this choice is the deminsions.I have very limited space.http://http://www.sonicelectronix.co...GM-D9500F.htmlThe RMS rating for the door speakers(db57)is 60W each.The RMS rating for the amp is 75x4 RMS @ 4ohms.Will this be too much power for the db's?If so I'm gonna put the db's in the rear dash of my Mustang and buy some component 5x7s for the truck because it's alot easier to find door speakers that fit than it is to find an amp/sub combo that will fit.
I have looked at stereo equipment so long(trying to find what fits) it's not fun anymore.lol,so these are my final choices.I'm waiting on a check in the mail from my sister for a truck I sold her.When it gets here,I'm ordering.
Again,thanks for the advice.
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Old 03-05-2012, 07:08 AM
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Not bad, where did you get your grill? I have been looking but im not sure where to order one yet.
Ebay man! I was looking at other places and they wanted over $100. This is the one I got, same build quality as the one's that are over $100.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/320713663727...#ht_2531wt_922

Fit's perfectly on my 1993. Should fit your 1997 perfectly too! I recommend it, highly!
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Old 03-05-2012, 11:09 AM
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I have two 10" Rockford Fosgate r2's in a ported box. Rockford Fosgate punch 500 powering them and a punch 360 powering all 4 of my door speakers. Best set up I've had for awhile. I love it!!
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Old 03-05-2012, 03:28 PM
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OK following that advice, this is the final choice.It has a single 4 ohm voice coil.
With this truck the physical dimensions are the biggest criteria of choosing an amp and sub.The Ranger's cab wall has an 11 3/4" indention.This is 12 1/4" tall,so I'm gonna trim the cab wall cover 1/2" to accomodate it.http://http://www.sonicelectronix.co...ml?from=857-49
It's a 10" JL Audio W1v2 in a sealed box.
The amp I chose is a Pioneer class D(full range)75Wx4(4 ohm).The biggest factor for this choice is the deminsions.I have very limited space.http://http://www.sonicelectronix.co...GM-D9500F.htmlThe RMS rating for the door speakers(db57)is 60W each.The RMS rating for the amp is 75x4 RMS @ 4ohms.Will this be too much power for the db's?If so I'm gonna put the db's in the rear dash of my Mustang and buy some component 5x7s for the truck because it's alot easier to find door speakers that fit than it is to find an amp/sub combo that will fit.
I have looked at stereo equipment so long(trying to find what fits) it's not fun anymore.lol,so these are my final choices.I'm waiting on a check in the mail from my sister for a truck I sold her.When it gets here,I'm ordering.
Again,thanks for the advice.
OK, that amp only outputs 200 watts RMS bridged output and the JL sub specs say it handles 300 watts RMS. You really should get a 100 x 4 amp. The JL is going to be underpowered with that amp. It can probably handle 400 watts or so in a sealed box of the proper size. Be sure and get the proper box size for whatever sub you get. do not worry if 100 watts RMS is too much for your 6x8's, you can use a DMM to measure the AC voltage output while setting the gain to your 6x8's with a 1000 hz test tone CD. They will be highpassed via the head crossover settings anyway. http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/f...mplifier-gain/

I think the S/O 100x4 would be a good choice of amps for you and it will give the sub 270 watts RMS, still underpowered, but better than 200. Look at the reviews and the warranty. http://www.crutchfield.com/p_777M410....html?tp=35782

Recommended Sealed Box Volume: The sealed box size recommended by JL Audio is 0.625 cu/ft. A diagram is provided in the owner's manual for a sealed box with external dimensions of 16.5" W x 13.5" H x 7.75" D, assuming 3/4" thick material. (If you are using 5/8" thick materials, you should subtract 1/4" from each dimension.)


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Old 03-05-2012, 05:03 PM
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The one I'm ordering is a loaded enclosure that has the .65 cf of airspace.However that only leaves me 9 1/8 inches for the width of the amplifier,which is why I can't use the SO amp.I will now look for a 100x4 amp that is slimmer than 9 1/8 inches.....just when I thought I had I figured out.lol.
Thanks for the help.

What about an MB Quart ONX4.125 amplifier.It fits dimensionally but I don't know if it'll be too much or even if that's a good brand.
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Old 03-05-2012, 08:11 PM
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I'd look at getting two amps; one for the sub and one for the speakers. thats the best way to get your amp to match up to both.

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something like these two

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_777M135....html?tp=35834

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_113KAC1....html?tp=35757
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:22 PM
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I'm running my regular cab system on one 4 channel amp. I bridged the door speakers to 2 channels and use the other 2 for the sub bridged. Systems sounds really good. It was easier than trying to find a place for 2 amps let alone one. I used to run 2 amps in my old car, but I think just the one bridged still sounds just as good for what I do.
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Old 03-05-2012, 10:06 PM
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I'm running my regular cab system on one 4 channel amp. I bridged the door speakers to 2 channels and use the other 2 for the sub bridged. Systems sounds really good. It was easier than trying to find a place for 2 amps let alone one. I used to run 2 amps in my old car, but I think just the one bridged still sounds just as good for what I do.
Do you know what 'bridging' is when referring to the output of an amp ? You did not bridge any speakers to anything. Your front speakers are connected to the front speaker outputs of the amp and your sub is connected to the bridged rear output of the amp.

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I'd look at getting two amps; one for the sub and one for the speakers. thats the best way to get your amp to match up to both.

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something like these two

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_777M135....html?tp=35834

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_113KAC1....html?tp=35757
Or, even better -

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_777M135....html?tp=35834

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_777M210....html?tp=35757



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The one I'm ordering is a loaded enclosure that has the .65 cf of airspace.However that only leaves me 9 1/8 inches for the width of the amplifier,which is why I can't use the SO amp.I will now look for a 100x4 amp that is slimmer than 9 1/8 inches.....just when I thought I had I figured out.lol.
Thanks for the help.

What about an MB Quart ONX4.125 amplifier.It fits dimensionally but I don't know if it'll be too much or even if that's a good brand.
The box sounds good, but do you mean it already has the JL sub mounted in it ?

Please tell me you are not planning to mount the amp on the sub box ! Vibration is just one of the killers of electronics. Moisture, heat, dust are the others. You should be able to mount an amp under each seat.
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:36 AM
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The box sounds good, but do you mean it already has the JL sub mounted in it ?

Please tell me you are not planning to mount the amp on the sub box ! Vibration is just one of the killers of electronics. Moisture, heat, dust are the others. You should be able to mount an amp under each seat. [/QUOTE]


Yes,it already has the sub mounted in the box.
I plan on mounting the amp on the rear cab wall beside the sub.There isn't any room under the seats of a regular cab for an amp.
I have looked everywhere and the only amplifiers that will fit and have enough power is an MB Quart ONX4.124 or a Clarion XH 5410.
I'm leaning towards the Clarion XH 5410.It's a little more than I wanted to spend but,I'm low on options.

I'll double check to see if there is room for amps under the seats.
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Old 03-06-2012, 07:00 AM
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Out of these three choices what would you guys choose? Feel free to recommend something different also if you guys know of other products in a similar price range,thanks.

http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...10TCVT104.html
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...10TG-W1v2.html
http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...-09p3LS10.html
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Old 03-06-2012, 01:32 PM
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:10 PM
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Please tell me you are not planning to mount the amp on the sub box ! Vibration is just one of the killers of electronics. Moisture, heat, dust are the others. You should be able to mount an amp under each seat.
I have had my amp mounted in/on my sub box for quite some time. Have never had a problem with it...
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Old 03-06-2012, 03:54 PM
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The box sounds good, but do you mean it already has the JL sub mounted in it ?

Please tell me you are not planning to mount the amp on the sub box ! Vibration is just one of the killers of electronics. Moisture, heat, dust are the others. You should be able to mount an amp under each seat.

Yes,it already has the sub mounted in the box.
I plan on mounting the amp on the rear cab wall beside the sub.There isn't any room under the seats of a regular cab for an amp.
I have looked everywhere and the only amplifiers that will fit and have enough power is an MB Quart ONX4.124 or a Clarion XH 5410.
I'm leaning towards the Clarion XH 5410.It's a little more than I wanted to spend but,I'm low on options.

I'll double check to see if there is room for amps under the seats.[/QUOTE]

Most amps will not cool themselves properly when mounted vertically. It's a function of how the heatsinks are oriented. No reason the amps can't be mounted on the floor.

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I have had my amp mounted in/on my sub box for quite some time. Have never had a problem with it...
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