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Old 10-27-2013, 05:41 PM
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Friend of mine is looking to put a new system in his '06 350. He's looking for something around 75 w @ 4 ohm for speakers and around 400 @ 2 ohms for the sub. Suggestions?
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Old 10-27-2013, 06:26 PM
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Old 10-27-2013, 07:03 PM
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You're going to get a million answers. You'll obviously get the Sundown Nazis...guys who think the pioneer and kicker at Walmart are the shit, guys who recommend standard stuff, etc...

The best thing to do is go down to a local audio shop and listen to options. Some guys call a loud sub good because of output over sound quality. Some people just can't hear the difference in quality

And for the record...I have NOTHING against Sundown. I just don't have personal experience with them, but from what I hear they are badass
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Old 10-27-2013, 09:25 PM
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You're going to get a million answers. You'll obviously get the Sundown Nazis...guys who think the pioneer and kicker at Walmart are the shit, guys who recommend standard stuff, etc...

The best thing to do is go down to a local audio shop and listen to options. Some guys call a loud sub good because of output over sound quality. Some people just can't hear the difference in quality

And for the record...I have NOTHING against Sundown. I just don't have personal experience with them, but from what I hear they are badass
This.

Get a budget and hit up local shops.

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Old 10-28-2013, 12:09 AM
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Whoa whoa whoa...drill? You're talking about for running the antenna right?

If so you have 3 non drilling options. 3rd brake light, door boot, and engine bay through grommet in firewall. You can tuck the antenna wire in the windshield seal if you go up front
Yeah the satellite receiver. And this is going in my Explorer, not the Ranger.
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Old 10-28-2013, 12:46 AM
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Friend of mine is looking to put a new system in his '06 350. He's looking for something around 75 w @ 4 ohm for speakers and around 400 @ 2 ohms for the sub. Suggestions?
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http://www.mtx.com/_mtx+mobile+td+se...td500+1d_222/b

Right in the power you are looking for. Great price, full warranty. Buy direct from reputable manufacturer.
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Old 10-28-2013, 01:35 AM
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Yeah the satellite receiver. And this is going in my Explorer, not the Ranger.
Put it on the dash. Looks better and no holes to worry about finding or drilling.

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Old 10-28-2013, 01:21 PM
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Hey guys. Installed new amps over the weekend.

Massive Audio N3 and NX2.

I planned on installing them behind the seats.

Ended up finding better locations.

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Old 10-28-2013, 01:49 PM
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Put it on the dash. Looks better and no holes to worry about finding or drilling.

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I have to have the wires tucked away. I'll see what I can do though when I get it in the mail.
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Old 10-28-2013, 11:15 PM
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I have to have the wires tucked away. I'll see what I can do though when I get it in the mail.
I mean tuck the antenna all the way up right where the windshield meets the dash. You won't see any wires. Trust me for once in your life damnit! Lol

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Old 11-03-2013, 06:23 AM
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4 fi ssd 15s on an rd d9 at 0.8 ohms. Metered a 149.8 sealed up legal on the dash at 38hz.



A video of it moving a tshirt a little bit lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-3-...e_gdata_player
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:03 PM
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What is this mess?
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Old 11-06-2013, 06:58 PM
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What is this mess?
Looks like someone did some clamping, but without calculating what the phase angle and all that jazz is those results are not accurate

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Old 11-06-2013, 07:46 PM
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Looks like someone did some clamping, but without calculating what the phase angle and all that jazz is those results are not accurate

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Looks like someone watched videos on another method that is no more accurate in a real world application than clamping

The amp dyno is a wonderful idea, but in an SPL setup like mine it's useless. I need to know my reactive load in relation to nominal, and to see if I'm gaining/losing output by the changes I'm making to my enclosure/vehicle/charging system. It's wonderful to see what an amp will do on a constant 1 ohm load hooked you a charger, but that does me no good in chasing tenths.

Phase angle, efficiency in the way Tony referred to it, etc have never been a concern, and will not be a concern to those using these for the type of application I'm using as knowing what my amp will do on a constant load limited by the battery bank backing it doesn't tell me the information I need thus is no more accurate in my application than clamping. What I did this for was to see the extra 10 vac I gained for the last change made, thus resulting in a pretty substantial gain. Not to mention it's not capable of monitoring two or more at one time like I need.

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I'm a huge fan of Tony and his work, have been since his days at RF, but IMO the amp dyno will never take the place of the traditional clamping method with good true rms meters in the SPL world. It's an excellent tool for shops/manufacturers that want to show the customer exactly what they are getting but until it can start with a nominal load and show real time rise as in the application and function off the vehicles actual charging system and be easy enough to be used to check in all different temperatures, humidities, conditions then it will not work in my particular application.
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Old 11-06-2013, 10:00 PM
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Looks like someone watched videos on another method that is no more accurate in a real world application than clamping

The amp dyno is a wonderful idea, but in an SPL setup like mine it's useless. I need to know my reactive load in relation to nominal, and to see if I'm gaining/losing output by the changes I'm making to my enclosure/vehicle/charging system. It's wonderful to see what an amp will do on a constant 1 ohm load hooked you a charger, but that does me no good in chasing tenths.

Phase angle, efficiency in the way Tony referred to it, etc have never been a concern, and will not be a concern to those using these for the type of application I'm using as knowing what my amp will do on a constant load limited by the battery bank backing it doesn't tell me the information I need thus is no more accurate in my application than clamping. What I did this for was to see the extra 10 vac I gained for the last change made, thus resulting in a pretty substantial gain. Not to mention it's not capable of monitoring two or more at one time like I need.

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I'm a huge fan of Tony and his work, have been since his days at RF, but IMO the amp dyno will never take the place of the traditional clamping method with good true rms meters in the SPL world. It's an excellent tool for shops/manufacturers that want to show the customer exactly what they are getting but until it can start with a nominal load and show real time rise as in the application and function off the vehicles actual charging system and be easy enough to be used to check in all different temperatures, humidities, conditions then it will not work in my particular application.
Lol you got me, ima sucker for some math lol and I agree with you in the ad-1, all loads are reactive in audio not resistive which is why I think his new meter is nice because its like a dyno but it uses the subs as the load and imo is a much more realistic test.

But the issue with clamping is that the meters (voltage, ammeter) record the max value but they don't necessarily occur at the same time so you can't just do (volts x amps = watts) there is a power factor you have to find and add in to the equation to get watts. With Ac power if you just multiply volts and amps you end up with Va not watts (I think, don't quote me I've been drinking atm lol)

I'm not trying to belittle you or anything just wanna make sure the proper equations are used to get an accurate measurement. While I'm not at the same level as you, I'm a fellow basshead in for the fun of the addiction lol
I'll prolly see this in the morning and think wtf was I thinking lol thank god for auto correct

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