View Full Version : tampering with truck: a cautionary tale

09-19-2009, 11:04 PM
I put a spacer lift on my 86 ranger and I put the wheels back on and tightened them what I thought was real good. I took it "off-roading" (actually just up a gravel cat track to a peak) when I was driving home afterwards I noticed a wobble in my driving and a strange clunking from the passenger wheel especially when I braked. I pulled over after it got even worse and hada look around ...couldn't see anything...so jacked it up to check the wheel and the lugs were loose...so loose that I could hand tighten them 2 turns. the other side was a tad loose too. I took out my breaker bar and tightened the snot out of them all for REAL this time. Luckily I got to it in time or I would've been toast (I was about to get on the highway) and many cars around me would be in serious danger. Lesson learned, and hopefully eveyone else knows to tighten the poop out of your lug nuts.

09-20-2009, 06:01 AM
had something happen like that many years ago, kinda scary.
Glad you caught it when you did.
That is why, when you go to the tire shop they use a torque wrench.
So I don't get myself in a pickle, I will let someone else give the torque specs.
I honestly don't remember, the only time the tires come off is at a tire shop, hope it stays that way. I got my 18" breaker bar to tighten 'em though, and a 4' piece of pipe if I don't think I got 'em tight enough. HAHA


09-20-2009, 06:08 AM
I honestly don't remember, the only time the tires come off is at a tire shop, hope it stays that way. I got my 18" breaker bar to tighten 'em though, and a 4' piece of pipe if I don't think I got 'em tight enough. HAHARay

the last time the tire shop did that to me i could have rammed that impact up the guy's butthole at the tire shop. no thanks the lug nuts on my truck are just tight enough to keep them on and have never worked loose. there's absolutely no reason to tighten them that tight.

Jay FX4
09-20-2009, 09:36 AM
I had a similar situation a long time ago. I don't recall exactly what I was doing (rotating tires maybe) but I had tightened the lugs with my dads new air compressor. Apparently as I went around the lugs to torque them down one last time, I had the gun on reverse and didn't realize it. Went for a drive and after a couple miles I start hearing thumpthumpthump. Pulled over to check it out and both wheels on the passenger side were about ready to come off. I didn't lose any lugs though so I just tightened them up and went on my way. It did scare the hell out of me though. And believe me, it's a mistake I never made again. Even to this day when I'm taking the wheels off and on with air, I still usually go around afterward and check all the lugs "by hand" with a bar.

09-21-2009, 05:56 AM
A long time back I got up to a flat tire on an old truck I owned, the tires had just been changed the day before and I was really upset about a flat on new tires. Jacked the truck up, pulled the spare out and started pulling lug nuts, the last one was really tight and I needed to get to work, when the nut didn't come loose with the breaker bar and long pipe cheater, I added heat, which did no good, it took a cold chisel and a ruined rim and lug to get the tire changed.
I dropped by the tire shop after work to get the tire repaired and lug and rim replaced. Then I found out the little SOB that changed my tires had been told in the morning he was being laid off at the end of the day.
The guys went around and found one super tight lug nut on each of the remaining, which they loosened up with their 3/4" impact.
Some months later, I heard the ex tire shop worker had been sued by the tire shop owner over his actions on his last day there, I ended up testifying for the shop. the ex employee ended up with a long sentence and a large fine because of something that took place as result of his action.
Since that time, I stay with my vehicle when the tires are changed, no matter if they like it or not. A couple tire shops have lost a sale because they wouldn't let me stay with the rig.


Jay FX4
09-21-2009, 06:13 AM
^ Wow that sucks. Glad to hear the punk paid the price, though.

09-22-2009, 09:41 AM
I always stay with my truck. I usually get the "well because of insurance I can't let you in the shop" and I usually respond with "well because of personal assurance and my supervision, you can let me in or lose a sale"
On my last truck I avoided a very big pain in the butt due to some idiot dumping my rotor and scratching it up to make me pay for a rotor turn at 55 bucks a rotor... I called the shop manager over told him what I saw and politely expressed that if he didn't fix the damages that occured he would be facing a law suit.. the worker was fired on the spot, and I got two free rotor turns and a 50% discount on labor. Come to find out the worker was known for taking advantage of people and for causing damages to vehilces to make them unworthy for driving. I heard a story, from another employee, where this individual cut the battery cables while changing a battery on an elderly women's ride, she was compensated later by a free battery and cables with no labor charge.

09-22-2009, 09:48 AM
^^^ wow thats shitty thats why i work on my own vehicles or have people i know and trust work on it

09-22-2009, 09:57 AM
yup. After that, if it's something I have time to work on I do it myself. If I don't have the time, I'll shop it and supervise the work being done.

09-22-2009, 10:09 AM
ive only taken my truck in to a shop twice, once was to get my new tires mounted, the other was to balance the tires after like 20,000 miles and have an alignment. im always sketchy at what someone will do in a shop when they dont really care about the vehicle

09-22-2009, 11:18 AM
My bud is experiencing the a doosie along these lines. 2 years ago he had his boots and plugs replaced on his 2000 Expedition. Well he called me with an issue I came checked it out, turns out he blew out a plug. The real PIA one, pass/under cowl, I told him have it towed to shop, turns out they charged him $500 to replace the plugs and boots, on a 5.4l.
I about chocked hen I saw that, I asked was he retarded. He said look at the signature(wife). Well the shop is telling him that these motors spit out plugs and the threads unless you change the plugs every 40-50kmls. Oh they also said that they did not change the plugs, I said what took the phone and said you did not change the plugs, so you charged her $500 for changing 8 boots? He replied yes. Well he has the receipt and it clearly states plugs and boots. . . I have told him to file on these tards. Oddly a year ago when I was short on time, he said I should take my Porsche there. . . . . Pheww. Glad that never happened!

09-22-2009, 11:09 PM
torque specs on alloy wheels - 100 ft-lbs.

only time my truck has been in a shop was for an alignment and tires. and warranty work. good thing you caught that.

09-23-2009, 07:40 AM
ok so i personally think that the lugs need to be tight because your wheels need to stay on but i mean honestly keep it somewhat reasonable. yesterday i went to put on my new pro comp black steel rockcrawler series wheels and i had to max out my impact to get my lugs off from the stock wheels like honestly thats useless you only need them tight enough to hold because lets face it if you torque the crap out of them and you get stranded with a flat your not going to have that high powered impact to help you all your ganna have is that tire iron or some other rinky dink tire tool with a limited amount of leverage