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Old 06-11-2011, 07:18 PM
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the 351w is more a pita since the block is wider. as I recall the intake from a 302 will not fit a 351w. it was about 2"wider at the heads. I have also heard that the 351w interfears with the steering shaft and box
There is no steering box in a ranger. Not unless you got an antique ranger which is another story. The 5.0/302 intake manifold won't fit the 351. But the 351 heads will fit a 302. And for those wondering about fuel economy, I've seen some people use an LQ4 with an LS intake manifold and still have well over 400+ horsepower and torque nearly the same amount, and yet they still get over 30+ mpgs. They also used a 4L80E tranny. Keep in mind that the 5.0 won't be pushing no where near the weight that they'd normally be pushing around.

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yeah, the 5.0 is the best option really. parts are easy to come by, every body and their brother makes performance parts. And done right you can get a lot of ponys outta em.
Ford did this at the factory once. They stroked both 302 and 351 engines at one time or another to either a 352 or 400M engine. They were under the cleveland family. They had alot of kooling issues too. Most people use to call them "boat anchors", but they used the same 302/351 engine blocks. People usually forget about those engines.
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:51 PM
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i was just saying to get one. lol not make a swap... Ya i agree whole new fron tend lol
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Old 06-11-2011, 09:54 PM
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There is no steering box in a ranger. Not unless you got an antique ranger which is another story. The 5.0/302 intake manifold won't fit the 351. But the 351 heads will fit a 302. And for those wondering about fuel economy, I've seen some people use an LQ4 with an LS intake manifold and still have well over 400+ horsepower and torque nearly the same amount, and yet they still get over 30+ mpgs. They also used a 4L80E tranny. Keep in mind that the 5.0 won't be pushing no where near the weight that they'd normally be pushing around.

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Ford did this at the factory once. They stroked both 302 and 351 engines at one time or another to either a 352 or 400M engine. They were under the cleveland family. They had alot of kooling issues too. Most people use to call them "boat anchors", but they used the same 302/351 engine blocks. People usually forget about those engines.
97 and older have a steering box fyi.


Btw I love how no one asked the OP any info on his ranger. That alone will make a big difference on whats doable and whats not.
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Old 06-12-2011, 05:22 AM
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I want to start off by saying im loving the feed back

it is sounding like my best bet so far is a 302, now wgat year would i go with and 400 hp and 30 mpg sounds great but what transmission ? I will never drive automatic (barf)

And the cummins is an interesting idea but im a ford man so if i ever used a diesel 5.9L it would be the international harvester DT360 inline 6 that big bugger made 1000 hp way before any cummins and they are far cheaper to build to that much power, i owned a jeep before this so this ranger might in the future get a lift and sone big tires also i drive far like 2h to work every day and 2 hours back so a diesel is still an option i live diesel i just dont love spending money or broken drive lines and no one mention the 4BT tge answer is no lol i love diesel 600 hp with good fuel and great driving manners is not to hard

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and im a newb member who is THE OP ?
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Old 06-12-2011, 10:04 AM
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Old 06-17-2011, 05:07 AM
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The more I look at both the diesel option and gas the 302 is definitely the best option!!! Hands down

But if I want decent economy out of it I heard if your light on the foot it gets roughly the same fuel economy in a ranger as the 4.0L anyone war to add on that ?
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Old 06-17-2011, 06:08 AM
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yea wont a v8 in a truck like this get mid to high teens(depending how you drive) for gas mileage?

id say do a 4bt swap. but another cool v8 swap would be a LS1, lots of aftermarket and such. then again that vette mightve had one ha.
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Old 06-17-2011, 09:24 AM
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Stock HO, probably comparable, but you are talking about building a pretty stout engine. I wouldn't expect good mileage out of a n/a engine that you're describing built on old technology. Look at what the Mustang V8 and V6 is putting out and they economy they get, sounds like that is what you want. Switch to carb from EFI, and you are worse off as far as economy. You are going to need boost to get performance and economy out of an old dinosaur. I would look into 2.3T if economy was that much of an issue, or get a light car. "400hp" n/a 5.0 would probably not make a good daily driver, and it's not a good assumption to make beating them in a race. There is more to going fast than how much a power output you have, you need to be able to transfer against the road and the engine needs to make power where it is useful. That power ain't doing jack shit if all it's doing is spinning the tires.
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Old 06-17-2011, 04:55 PM
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Maybe defining my goal will make more sense.

I want a all around vehicle id prefer diesel but 4 cyl diesels are hard to come by and the 4bt takes to much modifications to make it dd

i wabt something for mild off roading so.singke cab short box. Decent fuel. And if i have to romp on it it will go like hell

if i could find a 3L perkins or cat id prefer that no matter what i dont touch rice

this is not an over nught build i have a 94 SINGLE CAB SHORT BOX oops caps lock.

Im in the budgeting and planning stage right now
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Old 06-17-2011, 10:09 PM
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97 and older have a steering box fyi.


Btw I love how no one asked the OP any info on his ranger. That alone will make a big difference on whats doable and whats not.
My 1997 XLT didn't have a steering box. It had power rack and pinion instead, which the power steering pump kept going out on until a local GM dealer finally put the right one in, L.O.L. Are you sure it wasn't just a couple of years earlier, like around 1994 or older? because I have seen some rangers around 1996 and 1995 to have power rack and pinion steering before. Plus Lmc truck does have power steering pumps and rack and pinion steering racks from 1995 and up. True we should've asked for more info about his ranger though. You still might be right about that. That could be when they first started using power rack and pinion steering, I'll check on that here shortly to make sure because there's a good chance we're both right about it. I am absolutely sure beyond a shadow of a doubt that my 97 XLT had rack and pinion steering because that was the first thing I had trouble with.
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Old 06-19-2011, 02:21 PM
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yea like said above, what goods the HP if u cant put it to the road. 300hp would be plenty IMO.

my dad had a 02 ws6 t/a with the LS1. i think it had like 325-350ish stock, n that thing was wicked fast.
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Old 06-20-2011, 03:58 AM
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I hear ya sounds like it would pull like hell
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Hope your'e able to find a donor V8 vehicle for what ever swap you attempt. The 302 was the easiest option but still time consuming and the mileage stays around 15-18 on average.
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Old 06-21-2011, 04:26 AM
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My buddy is a mod on diesek garage with dapilot so im still debating ny ranger and swapping in a 302 or 7.3 PSD or buyibg an F250 With a 7.3 and shortening the box to 5 feet
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:52 PM
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Well after I rode in a couple of V8 rangers, I can tell you that it was a great exp. The mpgs stayed just about the same as what they had before with their 4.0 engines had with M.P.F.I. These were carbed V8s. If you don't stand on the throttle it does ok. The power and torque were almost orgasmic and it made a huge difference in both rangers. I don't see why Ford doesn't offer it as an option in the current rnager platform really.
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