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Old 05-17-2011, 03:09 PM
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Default V8 swap and Emissions testing?

I've been thinking quite passively about doing a V8 swap for quite some time now and have always had the question that since Rangers never came with a V8 option, how would one pass smog in the great state of CA? Would the truck have to pass the emissions test of the car that the engine came out of? Help please.

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Old 05-17-2011, 07:40 PM
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IIRC, the engine must be the same year as the body/chassis or newer, and must have all of its emissions equipment hooked up and functioning.

Check out this page, they deal mostly with V8 S-10s, but the same smog laws should apply:

http://www.jagsthatrun.com/Pages/Che..._V-8_Smog.html
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Old 05-17-2011, 08:18 PM
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In Denver (where we adopt CA's emissions laws every year) the rule as far as I've learned is thus:

If you swap in a non-stock block it has to be of a newer model year, and must have the newer motor's emissions equipment (which is friggin retarded)

Makes it damn hard to do. In my Jeep I was going to go V8, but instead went turbo/stroker just because it LOOKS stock under the hood and the minimum-wage private-non-govt emissions workers can't bitch about it.

Just like I told them that my belt driven air pump was inside the motor, just run it anyway (and of course is passed)
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Old 05-17-2011, 08:26 PM
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Default Re: V8 swap and Emissions testing?

X2 on both posts. I was gonna do a v8 swap in my jeep but never got around to it. Once you get it all in and with all the smog stuff you have to take it to a referee and it has to pass a visual inpection. If it doesnt they will tell you exactly what it needs and you can go change it and set up a new appointment.
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Old 05-18-2011, 12:43 PM
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yup, same year or newer, and the smog would apply to the engine, not the chassis. but its the same test unless you get a diesel V8
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: V8 swap and Emissions testing?

now when they say same yr or newer, i just found out that if u have a reman'd motor
lets say from jasper(other companys) as long as the motor was redone by a shop like that after the truck was made it counts as "newer"
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:15 PM
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actually from mwhat my dad was telling me (he has a 78 bronco with a barred motor) the referee stations are slowly stopping that shenanigans... but i think its ok, because you can make it pass the explorer's emissions test since its a RBV and the exploder came with a v8. but im not 100% on any of this, just what i have heard.
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Old 05-18-2011, 03:19 PM
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now when they say same yr or newer, i just found out that if u have a reman'd motor
lets say from jasper(other companys) as long as the motor was redone by a shop like that after the truck was made it counts as "newer"
Speaking about the engine internally, you may be right. But for the referee station, the key issues are going to be how the engine looks externally - helps identify the year of the engine - and whether all of the emissions equipment is present and functioning.

Doesn't really matter when the engine was "re-done", it has to be applicable to the same model year or newer, and have the corresponding smog equipment.
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Old 05-19-2011, 07:03 AM
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Speaking about the engine internally, you may be right. But for the referee station, the key issues are going to be how the engine looks externally - helps identify the year of the engine - and whether all of the emissions equipment is present and functioning.

Doesn't really matter when the engine was "re-done", it has to be applicable to the same model year or newer, and have the corresponding smog equipment.
well for instance if u have a 97 ranger... u blow the motor now u put a rebuilt motor in it, that motor from what i understand is considered a 2011, thats straight from jaspers reps mouth, wether its the stock motor, v8 swap, it goes by when the motor was done, and obv u have to have all smog and emissions. but i was getting at that the date of the engine kinda changes
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Old 05-19-2011, 09:23 AM
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Thanks for all the info guys. It makes this seem a hell of a lot easier than I thought it would be.
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Old 05-19-2011, 10:33 AM
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5.0L from a 1997-2001 Explorer/Mountaineer may be just the ticket for you, I'm thinking, in terms of fitment and staying smog legal. Same platform as the Ranger.

These engines already come with the GT-40/GT-40P heads, and there are no shortage of CARB-legal mods available in the aftermarket, up to and including forced induction.
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:25 PM
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5.0L from a 1997-2001 Explorer/Mountaineer may be just the ticket for you, I'm thinking, in terms of fitment and staying smog legal. Same platform as the Ranger.

These engines already come with the GT-40/GT-40P heads, and there are no shortage of CARB-legal mods available in the aftermarket, up to and including forced induction.
Sicckkk, maybe iif I ever get a decent job I can afford to do so.
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Old 05-19-2011, 03:45 PM
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Sicckkk, maybe iif I ever get a decent job I can afford to do so.
I hear ya! But if you have a decent junkyard nearby, or a parts vehicle, and can do most of the wrenching yourself or with friends, it may be cheaper than you think.

I've never been in a 5.0 Ranger, but I did own a 350 S-10 for a brief while. Even a stock V8 in a small truck is enough power-to-weight to be a helluva lot of fun.
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