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Old 05-25-2011, 07:27 PM
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Default Re: Whats the difference between the engine in an aviator and a mach 1?

lol tru say but i'd rather get the engine from a mustang along with the rear end and all the other things from it. explorer lacks power.
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Old 05-25-2011, 07:35 PM
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lol tru say but i'd rather get the engine from a mustang along with the rear end and all the other things from it. explorer lacks power.
I was talking about using the suspension and mounting components. This guy I talked to, used only the exploder's mounts and steering components. He used a Mustang engine and rear end. In fact he said the rear end was the easiest part of the project.
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Old 05-25-2011, 08:04 PM
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...that comment was ridiculous. Simple question: If the 5.0 is better than the 4.6, why did Ford replace the 5.0 with it?
i'm not saying that the 4.6 is a worse motor than the 5.0. i'm saying that for this application, the 5.0 is a better motor choice.

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lol tru say but i'd rather get the engine from a mustang along with the rear end and all the other things from it. explorer lacks power.
they're the same motor. swap the heads on a explorer 5.0 to the gt40 heads, and you're in the fast lane to cool town. also, you have to remember that an explorer weighs a lot more than the mustang.

in this link, the expo has an 8.8 0-60 time, 215 hp, and 288 torque.
http://www.explorerforum.com/ntrprize/spec1998.htm

the mustang in 1994 (the last year of the 5.0) also had 215 horsepower in GT trim, 6.9 second 0-60 time, and weighed a little over 3k lbs.

http://www.themustangnews.com/conten...pecifications/
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Old 05-25-2011, 08:24 PM
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i'm not saying that the 4.6 is a worse motor than the 5.0. i'm saying that for this application, the 5.0 is a better motor choice.



they're the same motor. swap the heads on a explorer 5.0 to the gt40 heads, and you're in the fast lane to cool town. also, you have to remember that an explorer weighs a lot more than the mustang.

in this link, the expo has an 8.8 0-60 time, 215 hp, and 288 torque.
http://www.explorerforum.com/ntrprize/spec1998.htm

the mustang in 1994 (the last year of the 5.0) also had 215 horsepower in GT trim, 6.9 second 0-60 time, and weighed a little over 3k lbs.

http://www.themustangnews.com/conten...pecifications/
X2. Comp Cams even offers cams that bolt right in with no other mods that give you alot more power and that old school muscle car sound to boot. they're called "Thumpr Cams, hated by neighbors and envied by friends". They show an install of cams only and the results spoke for themselves. That's just one mod of many you can do to the top end by itself with these motors. The Old 5.0 would be a better choice for this project and cost alot less money and time. Plus wouldn't that explorer motor have more power and torque considering it's moving more weight than the mustang has?
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Old 05-25-2011, 08:52 PM
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the explorer is a family car. it scoots along just fine with the power it was given.
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:58 PM
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the explorer is a family car. it scoots along just fine with the power it was given.
I figured that much after I already posted. Have you tried the Trickflow Twisted Wedge R heads yet? Those things are nice. I like them better than the GT40 heads, but they do tend to be a little on the expensive side though.
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Old 05-26-2011, 03:56 PM
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To answer the original question, the aviator is a 4v motor. Most 4.6s are 2v.
He was comparing the Mach 1 motor which is a 4v. Only the gt's got the 2v. I have owned two of them. The 4.6 is a great motor, but the 5.0 is the cheaper alternative overall. Neither is really better then the other. They both have their pros and cons. However ford already made is simple for us to put the 5.0 in the ranger thanks to the explorer. You CAN put a 4.6 in a ranger. Ford already proved you can put the lightning motor in the ranger which is a 5.4 4v. It all depends on your wallet though. Anything besides a 5.0 is going to be more expensive.
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Old 05-26-2011, 05:53 PM
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He was comparing the Mach 1 motor which is a 4v. Only the gt's got the 2v. I have owned two of them. The 4.6 is a great motor, but the 5.0 is the cheaper alternative overall. Neither is really better then the other. They both have their pros and cons. However ford already made is simple for us to put the 5.0 in the ranger thanks to the explorer. You CAN put a 4.6 in a ranger. Ford already proved you can put the lightning motor in the ranger which is a 5.4 4v. It all depends on your wallet though. Anything besides a 5.0 is going to be more expensive.
I agree. It's possible but not very practical and can be expensive. The guys that I know that did do this swap, had access to a huge shop from the beginning of the project and had years of exp. and knowledge of restoring vehicles. That's what it usually takes to install a 4.6 liter engine in just about any small/light duty vehicle.
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Old 05-27-2011, 11:49 AM
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I'm just making the argument that after looking at build threads for it, it's NOT that big of a deal to do a 4.6. That said, look at my V8 thread, I'm doin a 5.0 myself.
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Old 05-28-2011, 01:08 AM
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I'm just making the argument that after looking at build threads for it, it's NOT that big of a deal to do a 4.6. That said, look at my V8 thread, I'm doin a 5.0 myself.
Well in terms of what he's really talking about, he's wanting to do it on a 4.6 liter on a budget. Yes it can be done, but is he really willing to spend the extra time and money that it would take? That was really the question we've all asked to be honest about it.
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Old 05-28-2011, 05:42 PM
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On a budget, 5.0 for sure. It's not stupid money to do the 4.6, but it'd cost more for sure.
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Old 05-29-2011, 05:04 PM
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On a budget, 5.0 for sure. It's not stupid money to do the 4.6, but it'd cost more for sure.

X2. You can do alot with a 5.0 engine block. I mean alot. You can stroke it, use forced induction, carb or efi, and the list goes on and on. Plus your parts availibilty goes up to. People under estimate the 5.0 in many different ways. The old 5.0 is almost a perfect fit for the ranger as the 350 SBC was to the S10.
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:03 AM
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Default Re: Whats the difference between the engine in an aviator and a mach 1?

If you really really want that 4.6.. put the ingine in the bed of the truck, it can be done. and for some reasons would be easier then putting it in the engine bay haha.. go euro and make the engine bay into a boot "AKA a trunk)... haha

just an idea, oh and i would go with the 302 as well.
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