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Old 10-01-2009, 07:23 PM
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Default 94 ranger 4.0 to 5.0

i either want to built a 4.0 shave the heads, bored it, put a crank and cam in and so on but now i got thinking would i be better off puttin a 5.0 in it?? i know they have more power stock and u can do more to them but taking bout price and how hard it is to swap. i know how to do most stuff for motor swaps and what ever i need help with my dads helps so the only thing i need to know is how hard it will be and what will be cheaper to do
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Old 10-03-2009, 07:07 AM
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If you can find an Explorer with a 5.0 in it, strip everything out of the engine compartment, wiring harness, radiator, engine, air conditioner, and computer, plus whatever else, you can probably do the swap for half of what you can build a 4.0 for and get the same power.
I am not a 5.0 swap fan, but that is the fact of it.
You could even use a 5.0 HO out of a 91-92 Lincoln, as well as others, as long as you get all the wiring and the computer, those are advertised at 330 hp.
There are a lot of places to learn what has be done to swap in a 5.0, so go look and then figure out what kind of power you would end up with by going either way and what it is going to cost, the complete 4.0 rebuild against the 5.0 swap. I would go with the 5.0 swap and use a 5.0 HO.

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Old 10-03-2009, 09:44 AM
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Default thanks for the fast response

alright so i might go with the 5.0 but will that bolt up to the tranny i have or do i have to get a different tranny. also will the motor mount be the same or not?? im guess that if i have all the stuff for the swap its kinda like a hard plug and play lol
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Old 10-03-2009, 10:05 AM
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You could even use a 5.0 HO out of a 91-92 Lincoln, as well as others, as long as you get all the wiring and the computer, those are advertised at 330 hp.
Lincoln V8s for those years were 4.6 modulars, not 5.0's.

The highest factory advertised HP for a pushrod 5.0L in a production Ford was 240 in the Mustang Cobra.

93 Mustang Cobra: 235
94~95 Mustang Cobra: 240
5.0L HO's: 200~225, depending on year
Explorer 5.0's: 210~215
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Old 10-03-2009, 11:11 AM
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rwenzing u have a sick lookin ranger and u seem to be the guy to talk to lookin at your line of work. so i got some ?? for u lol will a 5.0 from a explorer bolt right up to my tranny for my 4.0>>
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Old 10-03-2009, 11:14 AM
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It will not.
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Old 10-03-2009, 06:21 PM
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[QUOTE=rwenzing;20138]Lincoln V8s for those years were 4.6 modulars, not 5.0's.



Look it up. 91 & 92 Lincoln Mark VII came with 5.0 HO's, 4.6 came out in the Lincoln Mark VIII in 93 on. Some where in the Lincoln line they put a 3.8 in them that was supposed to have 200+ HP.
I just sold my 92 Lincoln Mark VII with a 5.0 HO in it.

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Old 10-03-2009, 07:03 PM
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Look it up. 91 & 92 Lincoln Mark VII came with 5.0 HO's, 4.6 came out in the Lincoln Mark VIII in 93 on. Some where in the Lincoln line they put a 3.8 in them that was supposed to have 200+ HP.
I just sold my 92 Lincoln Mark VII with a 5.0 HO in it.

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Correct. Town Cars had 4.6L modulars, the Mark VII still had the 5.0L HO factory rated at 225 HP, not 330.
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Old 10-06-2009, 04:10 PM
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I will concede the HP rating.
Reading a re builders web site, said they had a 330 HP, 5.0 HO from a Lincoln Mark VII.
Then after I posted the incorrect HP for my old Lincoln, I went and found a site that had all the specs for my 92. It said 230 HP, but the next page for the same car said 220 HP.
So, it is somewhere in that area.
An interesting side not to the whole thing came from somewhere else (I spend entirely to much time surfing) that the 0-60 for a particular 5.0 equipped Mustang was 4.8 or .9 and the 0-60 for a 4.0 (I assume an E) Mustang was 4.1 or .2.
I wonder what the difference was at the end of a 1/4 mile? 5.0 by 2 lengths.

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Old 10-06-2009, 05:11 PM
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Default thanks for the help but...

I think ima go with Building the engine i already have for this truck and i may have found a 2x4 ranger in mint for cheap tranny is blown i guess so now back the the 4.o where is a god place to buy performance parts frome cuz i looked and theres alot of places to get them im lookin for a cam and ill no the rest once i get the heads shaved and the block bored out not sure how big i should go ne one got something?
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Old 10-07-2009, 02:01 PM
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This is the only one I have ever found that does perfoamnce parts for the 4.0


http://www.moranav6racing.com/
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Old 10-07-2009, 04:12 PM
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Maybe it is just that I am old and cheap, but those folks seem to be real proud of there products.

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