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Old 03-21-2010, 01:22 PM
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Here is my Ranger build..Maybe it will help out some. I am almost done with mine.
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Old 03-21-2010, 04:24 PM
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im deffenently going to follow this thing
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Old 03-21-2010, 11:28 PM
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well im not sure how you bored it 1.000 over because there is not 1" between the cylinders, and yes i do know what sleeving the block means. and yes a dry sump is street legal, the new z06's and the ford gt's come stock with them. and as far as the main stud gridles and valley girdles like dssracing offers they do strengthen the block alot, i was talking about it being weak between the cylinders.
Don't ask and don't tell. We pretty much had a really tight budget after "purchasing" a custom 302 block from a secret source. Overall the final cost was about $25,000+. The dry sump oil system I'm talking about is indeed ILLEGAL FOR THE STREET. The oil tank was in the trunk and the lines we used stretched from the trunk to the engine. This was a PROSTREET Mustang (1995 model). That's what we did with it. Basicly we went way, way over bore and repaired it is what we did or rather the machine shop did.
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Old 03-21-2010, 11:31 PM
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Don't ask and don't tell. We pretty much had a really tight budget after "purchasing" a custom 302 block from a secret source. Overall the final cost was about $25,000+. The dry sump oil system I'm talking about is indeed ILLEGAL FOR THE STREET. The oil tank was in the trunk and the lines we used stretched from the trunk to the engine. This was a PROSTREET Mustang (1995 model). That's what we did with it.
How would having an oil system in the trunk make it illegal?
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Old 03-21-2010, 11:35 PM
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Steve, you mention that the 302 is a little heavier & bigger. As my truck sits right now on 29" o.d. tires, the front is 34" from ground to fender & the rear is 37" from ground to fender. I do want to replace the shocks, cuz I know it's past do, but should I wait until after the swap or before? Also, what would be a good shock replacement? Been going kinda slow with invited guest and some uninvited, but you try and be a good host. having bad weather here also, lately, but hopefully will have the old engine out within a week and have been looking for an explorer 302 to go in. Not much luck, unless I want to buy the whole suv, which are going anywheres from $1,500.00 and up. Have any suggestions? Should I reinforce the front for the larger engine going in? Thanks...Kenny
Basicly I'd start with local salvage yards and insurance company's total lost yards (vehicles that can be fixed but cost more than they're worth to repair). I'd also look at Monroe shocks for a medium to heavy duty version that will work for your ranger. They're affordable and made in the USA. Basicly what you need to do is before you do anything else is also measure the frame and remove the ENTIRE BODY FROM THE CAB FORWARD. Just leave the radiator and front fender supports. This will make it easier to remove that old V6 and it couldn't hurt to have a mock up long block engine for the install of the 302.
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Old 03-21-2010, 11:45 PM
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How would having an oil system in the trunk make it illegal?
Basicly we done so many mods that were listed in my state as off road use only. You see my state's picky about what we use in ANY vehicle that it's not funny anymore. Basicly according to my states rules (and rough roads) any external oil lines beyond the Firewall are deemed as track use only. Personally I don't see why but can understand the safety aspects of it though. Oh a bit of news: Today was the LAST RACE IN NASCAR WITH THE WING. They return to Martinsville, VA with the "old school" spoiler that years ago. They couldn't figure out why the cars were getting airborn once they got sideways. I did though. They needed to move the wing about 3 inches forward. They did have it too far back and once sideways the angle of the wing would cause the car to act like an aircraft taking off from the runway.
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Old 03-21-2010, 11:52 PM
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Basicly we done so many mods that were listed in my state as off road use only. You see my state's picky about what we use in ANY vehicle that it's not funny anymore. Basicly according to my states rules (and rough roads) any external oil lines beyond the Firewall are deemed as track use only.
WTF for...if you do it right it will be just as reliable as an engine sump attached in the pan. Sounds like to many stupid law makers that don't know shit about cars
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:07 AM
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well im not sure how you bored it 1.000 over because there is not 1" between the cylinders, and yes i do know what sleeving the block means. and yes a dry sump is street legal, the new z06's and the ford gt's come stock with them. and as far as the main stud gridles and valley girdles like dssracing offers they do strengthen the block alot, i was talking about it being weak between the cylinders.

If it's any interest to you, we won't do it again that's for sure. The engine was indeed weak between the cylinders but we temporarily fixed it when we had it sleeved with over a 1/2 inch thick stainless steel sleeves. The engine blew up that night in the last round at friday night street fights at bristol dragway. I also crapped my pants when it did too. That was an ugly, evil sound. It sounded like someone was shooting at us. Basicly we had an engine destroyed rather than built from the ground up. WE ALL LEARNED FROM THAT MISTAKE AND VOWED NOT TO DO IT AGAIN.
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:12 AM
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WTF for...if you do it right it will be just as reliable as an engine sump attached in the pan. Sounds like to many stupid law makers that don't know shit about cars
Yep. they're too busy being obama's kiss asses. That engine only lasted that night. Yes if done right it would last alot longer and be more efficient in my book. I'M NOT TELLING EVERYONE TO DO THIS TECHNIQUE FOR AN ENGINE BUT I AM TRING TO PROVE A POINT ABOUT A STROKER ENGINE. Just because someone says it "can't be done" doesn't meant that it hasn't been done. I WILL NOT DO THAT TO A STREET ENGINE OR ANY OTHER ENGINE AGAIN.
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:14 AM
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Yep. they're too busy being obama's kiss asses. That engine only lasted that night. Yes if done right it would last alot longer and be more efficient in my book. I'M NOT TELLING EVERYONE TO DO THIS TECHNIQUE FOR AN ENGINE BUT I AM TRING TO PROVE A POINT ABOUT A STROKER ENGINE. Just because someone says it "can't be done" doesn't meant that it hasn't been done. I WILL NOT DO THAT TO A STREET ENGINE OR ANY OTHER ENGINE AGAIN.
It doesn't sound as efficient, so I'm not suprised it didn't live long lol
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:21 AM
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It doesn't sound as efficient, so I'm not suprised it didn't live long lol

That was the first and only mistake we made concerning the engine. WE DIDN'T LISTEN TO THE MACHINE SHOP WHEN HE ADVISED US NOT TO HAVE THIS DONE. I reget that now adays but look back on it as a good learning exp. though. And for sure a damn expensive one to boot. This occured when I was first starting out over 12 plus years ago. The oiling system worked exceptionally (it was hosing down the track with oil after it blew up). The cylinders were just too weak.
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:27 AM
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That was the first and only mistake we made concerning the engine. WE DIDN'T LISTEN TO THE MACHINE SHOP WHEN HE ADVISED US NOT TO HAVE THIS DONE. I reget that now adays but look back on it as a good learning exp. though. And for sure a damn expensive one to boot. This occured when I was first starting out over 12 plus years ago. The oiling system worked exceptionally (it was hosing down the track with oil after it blew up). The cylinders were just too weak.
Well that's good to know. Didn't use a stud girdle I take it?
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Old 03-22-2010, 12:35 AM
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Well that's good to know. Didn't use a stud girdle I take it?

Actually we did but not an entire stud girdle kit for the top end for addtional support. We only used one for the bottom end around the crank. oops, L.O.L.
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Actually we did but not an entire stud girdle kit for the top end for addtional support. We only used one for the bottom end around the crank. oops, L.O.L.
Lol there is some sick vid on youtube with engines separating because of that. There's a bad ass dodge too that the block shattered and the crank stayed together because of so much compression
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Old 03-22-2010, 01:03 AM
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Lol there is some sick vid on youtube with engines separating because of that. There's a bad ass dodge too that the block shattered and the crank stayed together because of so much compression
It pretty much destroyed the 95 mustang's front end period. The block was sheared into several pieces. But we could see the entire rotating assembly inside the block though. We seen a Honda Civic do that not long ago. Too much compression, wrong cylinder heads, and yet the dumb kid put a turbo on with no reprograming what so ever. He just bolted it on. poor kid he totaled a brand new Civic he had just gotten. I tried to tell him but he refused to listen. Anytime you go to supercharge and/or turbocharge something you pretty much have to build the engine from the ground up with that in mind. That means New cylinder heads, pistons with alot lower compresion ratio than stock, new ignition system with the timing retarded more than normal. New injectors and fuel pump (most use both High and low impedance injectors for the street/strip). Also a COMPLETE STUD GIRDLE KIT to keep the engine from destroying itself. New valvetrain components. If anybody tells me that turboing a vehicle is cheap I laugh at them cause I know right then and there yes it can be done cheap but it will cost you your vehicle basicly.
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