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Old 10-31-2016, 06:51 PM
lyonsman101 lyonsman101 is offline
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Thinking of buying another ranger and doing a 5.0 swap what one should I buy I hear 4cyl is easiest but want to be sure and also how must should I assume the swap should cost with buying the 5.0 engine and trans ?
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Old 10-31-2016, 07:58 PM
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Thinking of buying another ranger and doing a 5.0 swap what one should I buy I hear 4cyl is easiest but want to be sure and also how must should I assume the swap should cost with buying the 5.0 engine and trans ?
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98 Ranger Reg. cab ============= $1500
00 Explorer 5.0L =================800
98 4x4 chassis ==================500
Maxi Muffler 2 1/2" Dual Exh from Cat ===215
Flowmaster 40 series Dual in/Dual out ===85
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Total Investment =============== $3100

That's you doin all the work! Labor for the swap est $1500
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Old 10-31-2016, 08:27 PM
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Awesome thanks if I do decide to do this wanted to make sure i didn't over pay for anything
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Old 11-01-2016, 04:12 AM
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98 Ranger Reg. cab ============= $1500
00 Explorer 5.0L =================800
98 4x4 chassis ==================500
Maxi Muffler 2 1/2" Dual Exh from Cat ===215
Flowmaster 40 series Dual in/Dual out ===85
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Total Investment =============== $3100

That's you doin all the work! Labor for the swap est $1500
Maybe im missing something but whats the need for the 4x4 chassis? Plenty of guys have done the swap on coils.
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Old 11-01-2016, 01:20 PM
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Yah from research I've seen it both ways but don't know which is better since I've never personally done one yet
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:18 PM
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Maybe im missing something but whats the need for the 4x4 chassis? Plenty of guys have done the swap on coils.
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Didn't want the hassel of havin to find a certain 2wd trans & modifyin the driveshaft, all added expense.

With an Edge 2wd or 4x4 chassis the Explorer stuff is a bolt in with NO MODIFICATIONS NEEDED except for your desired exhaust.
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:25 PM
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Didn't want the hassel of havin to find a certain 2wd trans & modifyin the driveshaft, all added expense.

With an Edge 2wd or 4x4 chassis the Explorer stuff is a bolt in with NO MODIFICATIONS NEEDED except for your desired exhaust.
Ahh good to know

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Old 12-06-2016, 02:11 PM
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I must be missing something, Rat Ranger: are you saying that a 5.0 won't (easily) fit into a 2WD Ranger?
What I saw in some other posts suggested getting all of the electronics AND the transmission from the engine donor vehicle as the 5.0 engine electronics wouldn't speak to the stock 4cyl or 3.0/4.0 transmission.
I'm thinking about a swap so this could be vital information.
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Old 12-06-2016, 03:49 PM
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An AWD 5.0L Expo drivetrain WILL NOT be a direct bolt-in when using a 2wd coil springed suspension Ranger.

Different mounts, oil pan, and you would have to find a 2wd trans from an F150 or Mustang which required different mount & cross member from what I've read.

Research here and/or TheRangerStation.com

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Old 12-06-2016, 05:40 PM
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Getting an Explorer 5.0 into a coil spring Ranger is not that tough. One of the hard parts is finding a V8/302 RWD doner.

An AWD 4R70W transmission can be rebuild to RWD spec, but requires a new tailcone and output shaft.

Custom mounting plates can be DIY'd from flat plate and there are a couple options for an oil pan.

A 4 or 6 cyl transmission won't fit or hold up if it would bolt up to the engine. Shoot, not even the std Ford 7.5" diff is really not a good idea.
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:04 PM
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What's the options for the oil pan cause that's where I'm stuck at the moment
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Old 12-07-2016, 01:27 PM
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The generic Ford Performance Parts rear sump oil pan will work -- but not with the OEM Explorer front catalytic converters. Also, it can interfere with the steering rack unless the engine is spaced upwards at the engine mounts.

The OEM Explorer 5.0 steel or aluminum pans should work if the engine is lowered into place without the transmission.

I modded a steel Expo 5.0 pan by moving the lower front edge of the pan back almost to the drain plug. Getting it oil tight afterwards was a chore but the engine and transmission can go in as a unit. The oil pickup needed to move back, I used a generic rear sump pickup rather than re-work the pickup from the 5.0 Expo.
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Old 12-08-2016, 02:47 PM
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Getting an Explorer 5.0 into a coil spring Ranger is not that tough. One of the hard parts is finding a V8/302 RWD doner.

An AWD 4R70W transmission can be rebuild to RWD spec, but requires a new tailcone and output shaft.

Custom mounting plates can be DIY'd from flat plate and there are a couple options for an oil pan.

A 4 or 6 cyl transmission won't fit or hold up if it would bolt up to the engine. Shoot, not even the std Ford 7.5" diff is really not a good idea.
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The generic Ford Performance Parts rear sump oil pan will work -- but not with the OEM Explorer front catalytic converters. Also, it can interfere with the steering rack unless the engine is spaced upwards at the engine mounts.

The OEM Explorer 5.0 steel or aluminum pans should work if the engine is lowered into place without the transmission.

I modded a steel Expo 5.0 pan by moving the lower front edge of the pan back almost to the drain plug. Getting it oil tight afterwards was a chore but the engine and transmission can go in as a unit. The oil pickup needed to move back, I used a generic rear sump pickup rather than re-work the pickup from the 5.0 Expo.
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GOOD info WIN and your posts concures with my statement:

An AWD 5.0L Expo drivetrain WILL NOT be a direct bolt-in when using a 2wd coil springed suspension Ranger.

Different mounts, oil pan, and you would have to find a 2wd trans from an F150 or Mustang which required different mount & cross member from what I've read.
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