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09-28-2015, 01:53 PM
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Re: Rebuilt 5.0 problems.... Need advise
I have a standard 2 ton cherry picker, its on casters so it should move front to back-side to side, I would lose some pulling power but should not be a problem..... OR.... When I pulled the motor last time I had help, and I put the floor jack under the transmission to hold it in place while the motor was out. Is it possible to hold it up without a floor jack so I could move the truck when the engine is out ? If I can move it out and push it back in the garage I would be able to get at it from the front. Sorry, I'm sure these are basic questions, but I have not planned it out in the past.
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09-28-2015, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cowboybilly9mile
Are you using a cherry picker or do you have some kind of block/tackle etc setup mounted on rollers that move on an I beam (ie, engine over the fender) up on the ceiling? One way or the other, you're going to have to move the engine forward of the tranny a bit.
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he said "cherry Picker". Lol. Call it the same in Kentucky. I'm sure with rad out and the fan off the water pump you can get it forward enough the exit left or right. ----------
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Originally Posted by Nashlasvegas
I have a standard 2 ton cherry picker, its on casters so it should move front to back-side to side, I would lose some pulling power but should not be a problem..... OR.... When I pulled the motor last time I had help, and I put the floor jack under the transmission to hold it in place while the motor was out. Is it possible to hold it up without a floor jack so I could move the truck when the engine is out ? If I can move it out and push it back in the garage I would be able to get at it from the front. Sorry, I'm sure these are basic questions, but I have not planned it out in the past.
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use a coat hanger to secure the trans to something on the firewall
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12-26-2015, 07:13 AM
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Re: Rebuilt 5.0 problems.... Need advise
Update: I ended up pulling the motor and replacing it with a good stock motor out of a 2001 Mercury Mountaineer 5.0 AWD... Now in the process of finding out what went wrong with the first one...pulled off the oil pan and a visual check every thing looked good...oil pump looked good, took it apart everything on the pump and it looked right, gasket looked good I don't think that was the issue...filter was clean... It's on a stand so flipped it over and removed upper intake, all is good... Removed rocker arms, push rods no issues, Removed the heads, gaskets looked good no issue there, no gasket covering any holes that they should not have so I used the correct gasket on the heads... Hydraulic lifters all good, the Pistons all have a healthy amount of black soot on them... Not sure if that is right... I did find a potential problem, all the Pistons were put in backwards....could that be it??? I'll be finishing the tear down next week but could I have found it?
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12-26-2015, 10:29 AM
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Update: I ended up pulling the motor and replacing it with a good stock motor out of a 2001 Mercury Mountaineer 5.0 AWD... Now in the process of finding out what went wrong with the first one...pulled off the oil pan and a visual check every thing looked good...oil pump looked good, took it apart everything on the pump and it looked right, gasket looked good I don't think that was the issue...filter was clean... It's on a stand so flipped it over and removed upper intake, all is good... Removed rocker arms, push rods no issues, Removed the heads, gaskets looked good no issue there, no gasket covering any holes that they should not have so I used the correct gasket on the heads... Hydraulic lifters all good, the Pistons all have a healthy amount of black soot on them... Not sure if that is right... I did find a potential problem, all the Pistons were put in backwards....could that be it??? I'll be finishing the tear down next week but could I have found it?
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un. Backwards might be a problem because of valve clearance? I'm not that familiar with a 5.0 and how the Pistons look but that might cause an issue.
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12-28-2015, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Nashlasvegas
Update: I ended up pulling the motor and replacing it with a good stock motor out of a 2001 Mercury Mountaineer 5.0 AWD... Now in the process of finding out what went wrong with the first one...pulled off the oil pan and a visual check every thing looked good...oil pump looked good, took it apart everything on the pump and it looked right, gasket looked good I don't think that was the issue...filter was clean... It's on a stand so flipped it over and removed upper intake, all is good... Removed rocker arms, push rods no issues, Removed the heads, gaskets looked good no issue there, no gasket covering any holes that they should not have so I used the correct gasket on the heads... Hydraulic lifters all good, the Pistons all have a healthy amount of black soot on them... Not sure if that is right... I did find a potential problem, all the Pistons were put in backwards....could that be it??? I'll be finishing the tear down next week but could I have found it?
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wrist pin centering is slightly offset is why the piston are directional. If there is no scoring on the crank use new bearings and reassemble the correct way. If the Pistons were separated from the rods and setup to spec with the Pistons backwards there shouldn't be any issues.
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12-29-2015, 10:54 PM
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Re: Rebuilt 5.0 problems.... Need advise
Well I'm not happy right now but I did find the smoking gun. If you look at the picture you notice that the 3 galley holes do not have plugs ... This thing has not had a oil pressure since day one… Problem solved but I took apart the entire motor before I found the problem ... Don't I feel stupid ... image.jpg
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Well I'm not happy right now but I did find the smoking gun. If you look at the picture you notice that the 3 galley holes do not have plugs ... This thing has not had a oil pressure since day one
Problem solved but I took apart the entire motor before I found the problem ... Don't I feel stupid ...
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Holy damn it's a wonder you even got the oil pressure gauge to read anything.
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01-03-2016, 06:33 PM
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Re: Rebuilt 5.0 problems.... Need advise
Well now that I found the problem I'm going to take it slow with this motor and put it back together correctly… I have the stock 5.0 motor in the Ranger now that I'm getting some error codes… I know what they are but I'm not sure how to work around them. One is P 0232 which is a fuel pump secondary circuit high, I'm also getting fuel level sensor which is P0460 and lastly I'm getting P0453 which is EVAP… Problem is I removed the fuel tank and replaced it with a fuel-cell in the truck bed… Has anyone experienced this? And is there a workaround?
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01-03-2016, 08:02 PM
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Re: Rebuilt 5.0 problems.... Need advise
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Originally Posted by Nashlasvegas
Well I'm not happy right now but I did find the smoking gun. If you look at the picture you notice that the 3 galley holes do not have plugs ... This thing has not had a oil pressure since day one… Problem solved but I took apart the entire motor before I found the problem ... Don't I feel stupid ...
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Low oil pressure after a rebuild could be a lot of things, none really easy to check.
Loose/missing plugs at the oil galleries, bad seal between oil pick up tube and pump, or seal between pump and block would all be high on my list of suspects
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OUCH! I though it was a prime suspect but still,....
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01-03-2016, 08:14 PM
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Re: Rebuilt 5.0 problems.... Need advise
You were dead on!!!! I was thinking plugs in the back of the motor, was not thinking in front until I took off the timing chain cover and pulled the sprocket off that I found it...you won....Win
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03-30-2016, 10:41 PM
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Re: Rebuilt 5.0 problems.... Need advise
I'm still having issues with a CEL... It's a self induced problem... I fixed all the other codes but now I'm down to one last code and I'm stumped...it's a P0460 fuel level sensor.... I removed the tank!!! It's gone... I put in a fuel cell...I should have left it stock I know but I'm too far into it now... Anyone know a work around? Can I get an SCT tune and delete it... Can I put the sensor in the fuel cell or is it back to the junk yard to find a Ranger tank and go back to stock...I need to pass SMOG.. Any help would be greatly appreciated.....
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04-04-2016, 09:48 PM
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Re: Rebuilt 5.0 problems.... Need advise
Anyone have any ideas???
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Re: Rebuilt 5.0 problems.... Need advise
I would find the resistence of half a tank and go get a resister and stick it in
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07-16-2016, 08:56 AM
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Re: Rebuilt 5.0 problems.... Need advise
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I would find the resistence of half a tank and go get a resister and stick it in
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That's a great idea.
Galley plugs get over looked a lot. Run a tap through there and screw some in
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