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Old 05-06-2013, 06:27 PM
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Hey fellas

I just bought the momma to all the rangers, a 1974 ford courier, and man its sweet. But I must say the original 4.11 gears, 4sp transmission, and 1.8 liters of fury under the hood is not quite cutting it as far as power.

So... I'm redoing the whole thing. I'm not leaving Ford because that would be an abomination, figured I'd put a 2.3 in it, I've read on various forums that they fit in pretty easy.

I want to build up a 2.3 or 2.5 from the block up. I have all the time in the world and anything I don't know is ok I have a lot of help.

What I want out of this truck is as much power as I can get without sacrificing bullet proofness. It'll be 4x4 truck (but I won't be 4 wheeling it) I'm pretty sure I'll go EFI and turbo'd, that being said if you were building an engine up from scrap what would you do?
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:39 PM
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:39 PM
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Wow that sounds like an awesome project! But I know almost nothing about the advice you need and I would say most on here don't either. Visit this cite to find how to build the motor, don't know if anywhere there is doing what you are either but there should be good engine advice.
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:14 PM
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What a sweet looking ride! It looks like everything is there and all stock. Is it? Or is that just my ignorance in not knowing what I am looking at? If it IS are you sure you want to do all that? The 1.8 may be severely under powered but if it doesent burn oil and has good compression it will probably get better gas mileage than a 2.3 or 2.5. And any car or truck from that era is more appreciated and worth more if it is unmolested. Have fun either way whatever you decide. Do you want to sell it?
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:16 PM
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Hey fellas

I just bought the momma to all the rangers, a 1974 ford courier, and man its sweet. But I must say the original 4.11 gears, 4sp transmission, and 1.8 liters of fury under the hood is not quite cutting it as far as power.

So... I'm redoing the whole thing. I'm not leaving Ford because that would be an abomination, figured I'd put a 2.3 in it, I've read on various forums that they fit in pretty easy.

I want to build up a 2.3 or 2.5 from the block up. I have all the time in the world and anything I don't know is ok I have a lot of help.

What I want out of this truck is as much power as I can get without sacrificing bullet proofness. It'll be 4x4 truck (but I won't be 4 wheeling it) I'm pretty sure I'll go EFI and turbo'd, that being said if you were building an engine up from scrap what would you do?
The older 2.3/2.5 is crap. You want the newer 2.3 most likely. However ford states those engines are 'not rebuildable' however you still can. Ford doesn't list tq specs on the engine bolts and parts when putting it back together, but doesn't mean you can't do it, ford just got retarded. Also is its 4x2 then leave it alone, no need to waste time or money making it 4x4 since its so low down to the ground, but it is your call. I'd also grab a 5speed from a 2.3 as well as the drive shaft, axle, pretty much you'll need a donor truck. But whatever way you want to build it is your call, just depends on how big your wallet is. I'd say $8,000 to do a complete turbo build.
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:23 PM
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The older 2.3/2.5 is crap. You want the newer 2.3 most likely. However ford states those engines are 'not rebuildable' however you still can. Ford doesn't list tq specs on the engine bolts and parts when putting it back together, but doesn't mean you can't do it, ford just got retarded. Also is its 4x2 then leave it alone, no need to waste time or money making it 4x4 since its so low down to the ground, but it is your call. I'd also grab a 5speed from a 2.3 as well as the drive shaft, axle, pretty much you'll need a donor truck. But whatever way you want to build it is your call, just depends on how big your wallet is. I'd say $8,000 to do a complete turbo build.
Hey now that isn't very nice! I wouldn't go as far to say as they are bad. I would agree the duratec is more maintenance free (timing chain not belt) but they are pretty equal to quality otherwise I would argue as long as others on this forum (minus the base mpg and power the duratec has).
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:05 PM
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Hey fellas

I just bought the momma to all the rangers, a 1974 ford courier, and man its sweet. But I must say the original 4.11 gears, 4sp transmission, and 1.8 liters of fury under the hood is not quite cutting it as far as power.

So... I'm redoing the whole thing. I'm not leaving Ford because that would be an abomination, figured I'd put a 2.3 in it, I've read on various forums that they fit in pretty easy.

I want to build up a 2.3 or 2.5 from the block up. I have all the time in the world and anything I don't know is ok I have a lot of help.

What I want out of this truck is as much power as I can get without sacrificing bullet proofness. It'll be 4x4 truck (but I won't be 4 wheeling it) I'm pretty sure I'll go EFI and turbo'd, that being said if you were building an engine up from scrap what would you do?
Freakin sweet! My dad had a red 77? Courier. Not even close to as nice as yours though lol

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Old 05-07-2013, 04:26 AM
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Nice truck.i know a couple guys that race these trucks when the rule was you couldn't run anything newer than a 95 and they wanted the IFS.As the Courier came with a 2.3,it is not hard to put one in.I would get a 88-94 ranger running gear,motor,trans etc and change over to carb,bore 40 over,mill the head 60,do some porting(talk to Bolaws)a schoenfeld header and a 88 FI bottom intake and run a 350 holley.I,d slam it to the ground instead of 4WD but to each his own.You would save a lot of wiring headaches and still could turbo charge it.
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Old 05-07-2013, 04:19 PM
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oh yeah I was thinking about leaving it original. But top speed on this dude is 60 65 ... and thats to the wall man. I don't know if anyone here knows what the sasquatch addition is (its the 4x4 version of this truck). I'll put a picture down. There were only like 3500 of them converted to 4wheels off the production line. They are awesome and I must build one. I'm going to get all the new original parts I need for it and put them in along with a new engine all at once. (but I've got that handled its the engine I'm still pondering about)

I really like the idea of keeping it carburated (no computer) but am worried I won't be able to get enough power out of it. How much power can you get out of them (maintaning bullet proofness) with a carb?
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Old 05-07-2013, 04:20 PM
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and thanks everybody for your input. Yeah like I said I'd love to keep it carburated but at the same time... i want to be able to go 80 mph if I have to.
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Old 05-07-2013, 04:21 PM
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Man that is a good looking machine. Love seeing the older trucks. I'm on TurboRangerForums.com and I must say that is the place to be for turbo'ing a 2.3. So many guys have done it there and they're really smart and know their sh*t. Go onto there and check out a section called "Lima General Discussion" and "Lima Engine Builds" and there should be sticky threads at the top. 99% of every question you could possibly ask will be answered in those threads. The best year of 2.3 to use would be 95-97 because there have the better heads, unless you plan on using parts from an 88 TC. You could put the rods and pistons from an 88 turbocoupe into a Ranger 2.3 in those years, and it'll go in fine. Just check out TRF and I bet a lot of your questions will be answered. I'd also pick up a Ranger tranny (M50D) while you're at it. A lot of the guys over there run 15 psi through them and they hold their own pretty well. They're strong little buggers. Just note, if you do everything right and by the books, this truck can be as reliable as a brand new car. Once you start cutting corners, that's when sh*t hits the fan. Not saying you will, just saying what I have seen since I've been on TRF for many years now. This sounds like it will be an awesome truck to watch get built though!!!
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:25 PM
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Thanks brother. I'm checking it out right now. and you're right tons of good things on here!

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Old 05-07-2013, 08:26 PM
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You were wonder about power with carbs. NASCAR ran carbs up until recently
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:58 PM
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carbed 5.0 is what i would do
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Old 05-07-2013, 08:59 PM
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Thanks brother. I'm checking it out right now. and you're right tons of good things on here!

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turbo ranger forums is the best thing i have ever discovered ever in my life Thank you Tim Imaprobowler
No problem bud. If you ever need help hmu I can help you out. Check the project logs too lotta guys over there put in great detail what they had to go through.
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