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Old 02-22-2010, 07:04 PM
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yea they are useless don't waste your money
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Old 02-22-2010, 07:43 PM
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they are usless just like the torando air mgt. system and the KN CAI. they make good paper weights thou
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Old 02-22-2010, 08:21 PM
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So it works like the TORNADO that you put in the tube......I see...........yeah that works........LOL



so cutting off the top threads of a mayo jar and sticking it in there will help?


if youre going to tell me im wrong at least read what i said so you know what it is youre accusing me of being wrong about. it is the same CONCEPT as the tornado, but the tornado uses the fins to try to spin the air. the fins cause the air to slow down but it does spin the air so it is counter productive. it does not gain any power but it doesnt lose any. the poweraid system uses the "threads" to spin the air but it actually speeds up the air in doing so. like ive said before this lets the fuel atomize better. i didnt say before that this also makes it so the engine doesnt have to work as hard to get air in (air pump theory) the bore of the spacer is bigger than the bore of the throttle body so there is no restriction. i could go into how the sprial cut creates a pressure system to spin the air but that would be a couple classes worth of fluid mechanics of information to fully explain it. and no i was not reading the sales info, i was reading a thermodynamics and fluid mechanics textbook. and you can say what you want to about them but after i put mine on i got 2 more mpg in town and took off 3 and 1/2 tenths on my 1/8 mile time. which the .35 sounds like more than what it is because of how slow the truck actually runs (12.5 in 1/8 mile). i never
said that there were huge gains but it does work, at least on my truck.
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Old 02-22-2010, 09:06 PM
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How about a direct quote from AirAid. This is from a hummer site when they tested the Spacer and sent the dyno and driving findings to AirAid

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Subject: Re: AIRAID.COM Contact

Dear Sir, thank you for your inquiry in our products. The spacer makes no HP on the Dyno. It makes all of it's power in torque in the low end. If you haven't noticed any power on the Dyno or the track then it's doing what it's supposed to. You would not see any gains down the 1/4 mile or increases on the Dyno. The idea of the spacer is to improve overall drivability and fuel mileage. In most cases when people install a bolt on part they expect better mileage and power, what happens is they are into the throttle a lot more than before trying to test performance and that's when the decrease in mileage happens.
Sincerely,
<Airaid Technician>
pretty much says it all to me. IT does not add to HP and will not show up on Dyno..........meaning it does nothing
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Old 02-23-2010, 10:08 AM
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im just telling you my personal results on my truck, like ive said before it picked up 2 mpg and took off 0.35 seconds on my 1/8 mile time. ive never had it on a dyno so i dont know how much it actually picked up. it might not have picked up anything on the peak power or torque, but i would bet it shifted the curve and affected the average power some. i dont know if it did anything that would show up on the dyno, but it did show up at the track and at the pump which pretty much says it all to me. oh im not tryin to be a prick but i have the poweraid spacer not the airaid although i would think they would work about the same.
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Old 02-23-2010, 02:25 PM
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im just telling you my personal results on my truck, like ive said before it picked up 2 mpg and took off 0.35 seconds on my 1/8 mile time. ive never had it on a dyno so i dont know how much it actually picked up. it might not have picked up anything on the peak power or torque, but i would bet it shifted the curve and affected the average power some. i dont know if it did anything that would show up on the dyno, but it did show up at the track and at the pump which pretty much says it all to me. oh im not tryin to be a prick but i have the poweraid spacer not the airaid although i would think they would work about the same.
airaid IS poweraid. They produce it. believe what you want but there is not advantage, Im betting the weather conditions and track conditions attributed to your better time. or you are learning to drive it better. Weather and temp will also effect MPG.
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Old 02-23-2010, 03:35 PM
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airaid IS poweraid. They produce it. believe what you want but there is not advantage, Im betting the weather conditions and track conditions attributed to your better time. or you are learning to drive it better. Weather and temp will also effect MPG.

youre absolutly right airaid is poweraid, i was wrong about that my bad, i bought it awhile back and apparently forgot that. i would agree with you about the track conditions and weather helping my time but it ran a consistent 12.85 before. i made about 10 passes with it off over about a month and always ran between 12.80 and 12.90. i put it on and ran it the next week and made about 4 passes and it ran a best 12.499 and a worst of 12.582. i ran it about 15 more times over the course of the summer and the worst time was still the 12.582. i dont think i learned to drive it that much better within a week. just for the record im not backet racing or anything (i dont think there will ever be a 12.50 1/8 mile class haha) i just like to run it on test and tune nights at the local track when anybody can run just for fun. and youre right, the weather and temp make a difference on mpg, but im one to check my mpg every tank (good way to check if somethings wrong thats not very noticable) and the mpg is different in summer than the winter, but my 2 mpg gain was and still is consistent year round. well im getting better gains than that now because ive done some more stuff to it (k&n filter, exhaust, electric fan)
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Old 02-23-2010, 04:05 PM
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youre absolutly right airaid is poweraid, i was wrong about that my bad, i bought it awhile back and apparently forgot that. i would agree with you about the track conditions and weather helping my time but it ran a consistent 12.85 before. i made about 10 passes with it off over about a month and always ran between 12.80 and 12.90. i put it on and ran it the next week and made about 4 passes and it ran a best 12.499 and a worst of 12.582. i ran it about 15 more times over the course of the summer and the worst time was still the 12.582. i dont think i learned to drive it that much better within a week. just for the record im not backet racing or anything (i dont think there will ever be a 12.50 1/8 mile class haha) i just like to run it on test and tune nights at the local track when anybody can run just for fun. and youre right, the weather and temp make a difference on mpg, but im one to check my mpg every tank (good way to check if somethings wrong thats not very noticable) and the mpg is different in summer than the winter, but my 2 mpg gain was and still is consistent year round. well im getting better gains than that now because ive done some more stuff to it (k&n filter, exhaust, electric fan)
Yeah other miracle stuff LOL
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Old 02-23-2010, 04:20 PM
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yeah all the other stuff helped out too, between the spacer, k&n, exhaust, and electric fan im getting 4-5 more mpg than when it was stock. it did pick up some power too, but i havent ran it at the track since ive put the rest of that on so i dont know how much i picked up
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Old 02-23-2010, 07:16 PM
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yeah all the other stuff helped out too, between the spacer, k&n, exhaust, and electric fan im getting 4-5 more mpg than when it was stock. it did pick up some power too, but i havent ran it at the track since ive put the rest of that on so i dont know how much i picked up
well have fun and goody for you.
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