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Old 06-06-2011, 03:10 PM
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Default Running stright water?

So i was Thinking about running straight water or a 85% water 15%Anti-freeze during the summer but i am concerned about corrosion. the reason why i am looking in to this is because i use my truck to pull a riding lawn mower around town on the weekend and with all the record heat here my truck that normally runs on the cool side is running very very hot right now and I know that it is not a problem with pulling a trailer because i pull alot more weight around through out the year and have never had a problem and i drove out to the river about a 60Mile round trip with nothing but me a empty cooler, a bow and a fishing pole and it started heating up, so i am pretty sure it is just the record heat this year. sorry to run on but i was curious what you guys think about it? or any other suggestions and a bigger truck or not pulling with it is not an option, unfortunately we get in lots of trouble for pulling a George Jones. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Cheers
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Old 06-06-2011, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: Running stright water?

Yes it is a bad idea don't run more water then anti freeze.

You may need to do a full flush now to see if that is causing it to run hot.
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Old 06-06-2011, 03:24 PM
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Not a good idea. The ability of the water to carry heat is reduced very very minimally by making it the correct 50/50 mix. It isn't just for "anti freeze". It also raises the boiling point and inhibits corrosion and mineral crap. The boiling point of plain old water under about 12psi in your cooling system is only about 240. It goes up to about 270 with a 50/50 mix. So I don't think you'll see the gains you are looking for and if anything, you'll be making a bad situation more possible.

Sitting idle with my AC on for a long time in the summer, my temp will creep up to the 220's. That awfully close to 240. Once it hits that point, the water in your cooling system will turn to steam, blow the radiator cap, dump pressure, boil off everything else, bye bye rest of your day.

I would look into your fan clutch. If its not locking up as it should be, it will greatly reduce your engine's ability to cool itself. FYI, I'm watching the temp on my scangauge. And that needle doesn't budge above the middle normal mark until it passes >230. So if you're seeing that need creep up, you are running REALLY hot. Something isn't right.
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Old 06-06-2011, 03:54 PM
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Default Re: Running stright water?

Yea i dont run a/c, if you ask me God gave us this weather to enjoy it not to run the a/c. my temp gets to about 210 in the rad. the fan clutch is new like 6months old and is working fine, and when the outside temp is under 980 degrees the temp in the rad is right about 190ish. What coolant would you recommend for this hot weather, it doesn't look like it is going away anytime soon?
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Old 06-06-2011, 04:07 PM
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210?????? Oh please. That's perfectly normal for a hot summer day. When it is in the high 90' even on the highway with a 75mph wind blasting through my grill it sometimes creeps up that high and I have the biggest radiator that will fit in there.

If you have an auto, remember it is also trying to cool your transmission too. And you have the AC condensor in the way slowing down the maximum flow of fresh air, even without the AC running.

50/50 mix of water and antifreeze. Doesn't really matter which. Its all the same as long as you get the stuff that says it will work in any vehicle. There is no magical coolant or "better" stuff. If you're really worried, you can flush and refill the system.
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Old 06-06-2011, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: Running stright water?

God gave us the ability to invent the A/c so that we could decide when to enjoy the weather he gave us. What're you Amish?

Coolant also serves as lubricant for your water pump as well.

Any quality coolant will work year round.
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Old 06-06-2011, 04:13 PM
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210?????? Oh please. That's perfectly normal for a hot summer day. When it is in the high 90' even on the highway with a 75mph wind blasting through my grill it sometimes creeps up that high and I have the biggest radiator that will fit in there.

If you have an auto, remember it is also trying to cool your transmission too. And you have the AC condensor in the way slowing down the maximum flow of fresh air, even without the AC running.

50/50 mix of water and antifreeze. Doesn't really matter which. Its all the same as long as you get the stuff that says it will work in any vehicle. There is no magical coolant or "better" stuff. If you're really worried, you can flush and refill the system.

190 to 210 is perfectly normal operating range. you have nothing to worry about
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Old 06-06-2011, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: Running stright water?

As being suggested do a full system flush and check out the fan. Your trucks cooling system should be able to handle the temps no problem unless something isn't performing as it should be.

I have to run water (with watter wetter) in my race bike because coolant is slippery and sucks for clean up when you crash and it's not going to give you an advantage if your system isn't working right.
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As being suggested do a full system flush and check out the fan. Your trucks cooling system should be able to handle the temps no problem unless something isn't performing as it should be.
And based on his further description, it IS handling it no problem....
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Old 06-06-2011, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: Running stright water?

It's about that hot inside my Ranger this time of year! LOL Dam heat won't stop!!!
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Old 06-07-2011, 01:29 PM
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Default Re: Running stright water?

Ok cool this is my first full summer with my ranger so i didnt know if 210 was too hot or not. every other vehicle i have had 210 is in the red. but my plan was to flush the coolant and replace it anyway so i guess i will head to napa after work and get some coolant and do that to night when it get cooler out side. WOOT! 115degree heat index! and i might be Amish cause i love my heat! i know on my mustang i saw a big difference in temps running water with an additive in the summer, but i didnt know if it would be wise to do it on the truck since i use it to work in and put about quadruple the amount of miles than i ever put on the stang. but thanks for all the input! this si why i love these forums.
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