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swaping 00 4 cyl into a 04 ranger with a 2.3l 4 cyl
hey new here, i need to know if you can put a 2000 ranger 4 cyl into a 04 ranger with a 4cyl.
what happened was is my dad slung a rod in a 04 ranger with a 2.3l 16 valve inline 4cyl and the onley motor i can find to replace it is a 2000 4cyl and i was wondering if it could be done and how, along with a list of parts i would also have to replace , the 00 motor that i want to put in is complete with tranny too. thanks in advance for any help
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Re: swaping 00 4 cyl into a 04 ranger with a 2.3l 4 cyl
in cali the smog rules are to swap motors you would have to get a motor from the year of your truck or a newer year. Might want to look into that just in case you don't go all the way into the project then find out you can't use it. But thats just my guess but i'm pretty sure its something like that.
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02-21-2011, 04:55 PM
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Re: swaping 00 4 cyl into a 04 ranger with a 2.3l 4 cyl
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Originally Posted by mackdallen
hey new here, i need to know if you can put a 2000 ranger 4 cyl into a 04 ranger with a 4cyl.
what happened was is my dad slung a rod in a 04 ranger with a 2.3l 16 valve inline 4cyl and the onley motor i can find to replace it is a 2000 4cyl and i was wondering if it could be done and how, along with a list of parts i would also have to replace , the 00 motor that i want to put in is complete with tranny too. thanks in advance for any help
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buy a short block from you local auto parts store
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02-21-2011, 05:58 PM
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Re: swaping 00 4 cyl into a 04 ranger with a 2.3l 4 cyl
I don't know if the harness is different, but the '04 has something in the computer system called PATS (passive anti-theft system). Sucks because you can't work around it. The engines are the same however and if you are only swapping mechanical parts it should work. something to note note though, they must be the same trans or this will not work. Easy fix is to use the tranny that's in the truck now. How many miles on the thrown rod engine, mine also threw a rod. Maybe if we find enough people this happened to we can start a class action suit and make ford fix all of our trucks. lol
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Re: swaping 00 4 cyl into a 04 ranger with a 2.3l 4 cyl
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I don't know if the harness is different, but the '04 has something in the computer system called PATS (passive anti-theft system). Sucks because you can't work around it. The engines are the same however and if you are only swapping mechanical parts it should work. something to note note though, they must be the same trans or this will not work. Easy fix is to use the tranny that's in the truck now. How many miles on the thrown rod engine, mine also threw a rod. Maybe if we find enough people this happened to we can start a class action suit and make ford fix all of our trucks. lol
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The 2000 is a 2.5 so I am not sure if the parts are interchangeable.
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02-21-2011, 07:14 PM
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Re: swaping 00 4 cyl into a 04 ranger with a 2.3l 4 cyl
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buy a short block from you local auto parts store
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like i said "the onley motor i can find" is that oo motor. the onley place i could order one from is a long block from auto zone and i would have to drive 150 miles to pick it up and it would still cost me 2 and a half grand, the oo motor is 7 miles away and $700 , if i cant talk him down
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Originally Posted by ericthehurt
I don't know if the harness is different, but the '04 has something in the computer system called PATS (passive anti-theft system). Sucks because you can't work around it. The engines are the same however and if you are only swapping mechanical parts it should work. something to note note though, they must be the same trans or this will not work. Easy fix is to use the tranny that's in the truck now. How many miles on the thrown rod engine, mine also threw a rod. Maybe if we find enough people this happened to we can start a class action suit and make ford fix all of our trucks. lol
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yeah all the mounts and dimensions are the same, radiator hose on the opposite side and so is the water pump , but thats what i was thinking about doing is taking the 04 harness and wiring it onto the oo motor. you know using the oo motor like a base motor to build on . basically just using the block and internal parts along with heads and the 00 tranny and just swapping all the 04 parts over onto it. i just didnt know if there were any extra/less parts on the oo motor that are important and need to be hooked up so that it could run in an o4 with an 04 computer. like if the (pats) would get in the way or could i just put all those sensors on the 00 motor so that they would be read correctly by the 04 computer
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02-22-2011, 06:59 AM
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Re: swaping 00 4 cyl into a 04 ranger with a 2.3l 4 cyl
They are a completly different motor.the 2.5 is a Lima motor and the 04 is a 16 valve motor based on the Duratec.You have to have at least a 02 ranger engine
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Re: swaping 00 4 cyl into a 04 ranger with a 2.3l 4 cyl
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They are a completly different motor.the 2.5 is a Lima motor and the 04 is a 16 valve motor based on the Duratec.You have to have at least a 02 ranger engine
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^Yeah, true that. Sorry, I was thinking about the 3.0 vulcan engines. Might check a scrap yard for a long block, or talk your pops into a V8 swap.
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02-22-2011, 11:09 AM
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Re: swaping 00 4 cyl into a 04 ranger with a 2.3l 4 cyl
A couple on ebay,one is in Neb,so shipping probably not too bad.$450 for that one,shipping probably $150
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Re: swaping 00 4 cyl into a 04 ranger with a 2.3l 4 cyl
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Originally Posted by 4b316
They are a completly different motor.the 2.5 is a Lima motor and the 04 is a 16 valve motor based on the Duratec.You have to have at least a 02 ranger engine
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thanks thats what i needed to know
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A couple on ebay,one is in Neb,so shipping probably not too bad.$450 for that one,shipping probably $150
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thanks ill check it out, my buddy owns a car lot and has all kind of connections and found me one ten mins after i asked him to look , they want 750 and i could have it tommrow , but he said to give him a few days and he could have one way cheaper
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Re: swaping 00 4 cyl into a 04 ranger with a 2.3l 4 cyl
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Originally Posted by mackdallen
hey new here, i need to know if you can put a 2000 ranger 4 cyl into a 04 ranger with a 4cyl.
what happened was is my dad slung a rod in a 04 ranger with a 2.3l 16 valve inline 4cyl and the onley motor i can find to replace it is a 2000 4cyl and i was wondering if it could be done and how, along with a list of parts i would also have to replace , the 00 motor that i want to put in is complete with tranny too. thanks in advance for any help
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2.3L DOHC is same as ford focus.. they are not hard to find.. tried eBay?
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02-23-2011, 06:58 AM
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Re: swaping 00 4 cyl into a 04 ranger with a 2.3l 4 cyl
I was under the impression that the Zetec motor had the exhaust manifold on the other side?Zetec motor is steel block,belt driven cams.Duratec is aluminum block, chain driven http://duratec.wikispaces.com/
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