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Old 12-22-2010, 09:22 PM
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Question Truck wont start: Stater issue or electrical grimlins?

Hey everyone, first time posting on the ranger forums. Anyway I have been having some issues with my 94 ford ranger xlt. Latley the car will not start. Turn the key and here just a loud click from the starter solenoid and nothing else. Also says "Check oil" While attempting to start the car. Some Things I have tried to get my daily on the road again is:

Testing Both the Battery and the starter Both test fine
Changing the Starter Solenoid
Changing the Oil & Filter.

Nothing has helped, Im starting to think there is a short or something causing it to do this. Truck is also a manual, I inspected the Flywheel upon taking out the starter and noticed some chipped teeth on the flywheel. I was thinking that this might be causing the starter not to catch and get it started?? I have also tried moving it to position the flywheel in a different position and no luck. Any help is appreciated thanks!
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Old 12-22-2010, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: Truck wont start: Stater issue or electrical grimlins?

Well you can rule out the fly wheel not catching. You'd hear the starter spinning about a million RPM if that was happening. Also, rest assured this has nothing to do with the oil or any other fluid.

Please explain how you tested your battery and starter?

There are a number of fuses and relays that apply to the starter.

In the under hood power distro box:
Fuse #5: 50amp ignition switch and starter relay. If this is blown, you won't get shit.
Relay #6: Starter relay. If this is shot, it will not crank. This relay is not the main starter relay. It is actually only a relay that switches the big relay built onto the starter motor itself.

In the fuse panel inside the cab
Fuse #24: Clutch position, starter interrupt, and anti-theft (all if so equipped). I don't know how any of that shit works. But if the fuse is blown, it might screw you up.


(http://www.fordrangerforum.com/frf/manuals/2000.pdf page 145)

Then on the starter itself is the big ass real starter relay.



To engage the starters relays, the power flows like this:
Battery --> Power distro box ---> 50 amp ignition fuse (#5) ----> key switch ---> power distro box starter relay (#6) ----> Starter built in big ass relay

You will also have a large red cable going from the battery to the starter's integrated relay. This carries the power (very high current) that actually runs the starter motor itself. The big ass relay built onto the starter motor switches this power on and off. If the clamps on the battery are corroded, it will inhibit the flow of electricity. Same with the connections on the starter's integrated relay. This is a pretty common cause for no-start. Disconnect the battery clamps and clean them all nice.
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Old 12-22-2010, 09:58 PM
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Default Re: Truck wont start: Stater issue or electrical grimlins?

ya the flywheel missing teeth will be one problem. be sure to check your cables on your battery that they are on there good and tight. and once you get your truck started your oil light will go off.
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Old 12-23-2010, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: Truck wont start: Stater issue or electrical grimlins?

Depending on how you tested the starter, like took it in and had it checked or not it could be the starter switch, which is on the starter itself (small part on top) if it doesn't switch then the starter won't engage. I got a new starter just the other day that the switch wouldn't close so the starter didn't disengage luckly just had to take it back and exchange it. But here's what I would do to test to see if you are getting switch power to your starter: with a helper get under your truck take off the switch wire from the starter it's the little one. Have your helper engage the clutch and turn the key as you would to start the truck and hold it, since you disconnected the switch wire touch a test light to it if there is power to the wire it'll light up and as soon as the key is released it should turn off. If you have power to the wire then you know it's the starter/ if it doesn't light up the you know it's your truck not giving the starter the switch power to engage. I had the same issue you are having with the clicking and no start I replaced the starter and haven't had an issue since.
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Old 12-23-2010, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Angryevo8 View Post
Hey everyone, first time posting on the ranger forums. Anyway I have been having some issues with my 94 ford ranger xlt. Latley the car will not start. Turn the key and here just a loud click from the starter solenoid and nothing else. Also says "Check oil" While attempting to start the car. Some Things I have tried to get my daily on the road again is:

Testing Both the Battery and the starter Both test fine
Changing the Starter Solenoid
Changing the Oil & Filter.

Nothing has helped, Im starting to think there is a short or something causing it to do this. Truck is also a manual, I inspected the Flywheel upon taking out the starter and noticed some chipped teeth on the flywheel. I was thinking that this might be causing the starter not to catch and get it started?? I have also tried moving it to position the flywheel in a different position and no luck. Any help is appreciated thanks!


Did you check for 12V at the starter when the ignition switch is calling for a start? That would be the first thing to check......wouldn't it. Just replacing parts is the wrong way to fix anything.
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Old 12-23-2010, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: Truck wont start: Stater issue or electrical grimlins?

Oh I had this problem weeks ago with mine. My starter teeth was nearly gone and my flywheel had some wear (but nothing was whipped or broken)....found out my new starter wasn't the right one. Got a new one (like $10 more) and it worked!

Found out why my ignition key didn't work after I got the starter working.

Found out my fuse was blown where they straight wired my clutch sensor piece and my new starter relay was messed up. After I got all of that fixed she cranked right up!!
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Old 12-24-2010, 08:19 AM
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Default Re: Truck wont start: Stater issue or electrical grimlins?

Thanks for all the useful help guys!

I also do not have a voltometer to check voltage of the starter on the car. I both the battery and starter into advance auto and they tested it for me.

First thing Im going to check today will be the fuses & relays. Then the relay on the starter.
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Old 12-28-2010, 03:53 PM
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Default Re: Truck wont start: Stater issue or electrical grimlins?

Thanks fireranger and mikes turbo for all your help.

Turned out to be the solenoid on the top of the starter was bad. Replaced it and fired up better then ever!!
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