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Old 12-13-2010, 08:24 PM
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fuel pressure?
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Old 12-13-2010, 09:18 PM
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The fuel pressure reads at 40 psi when I first turn the key and drops slowly to zero with the key still on. But when I crank the motor over to start it the fuel pressure holds at 40 psi as long as I crank it. I don't know if this is normal or not.
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Old 12-14-2010, 04:43 AM
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Started this morning. It only 6 degrees. It started right up. I don't know if I flooded it last night and the starter fluid from last night was still in there or what. I'm driving it to work because even if it leaves me stranded I will have 1000 times more tools. Also I took the tape off my check engine light to see if it was still on and it's not. I think the bulb is just burned out because my tach still doesn't work and my egr sensor isn't hooked up
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Old 12-14-2010, 07:18 AM
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I just started it during my break after it sat for 2 hours an it started right up. I did notice a strange noise that lasted about 2 seconds after I started it. It sounded like a turkey call.
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Old 12-14-2010, 07:25 AM
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I just started it during my break after it sat for 2 hours an it started right up. I did notice a strange noise that lasted about 2 seconds after I started it. It sounded like a turkey call.
a dirty/bad IACV can make a whining sound?
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Old 12-14-2010, 08:38 AM
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I just started it during my break after it sat for 2 hours an it started right up. I did notice a strange noise that lasted about 2 seconds after I started it. It sounded like a turkey call.
first time you have heard this?
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Old 12-14-2010, 09:36 AM
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No I remember it from last year now. First time I've heard it this year. I just cleaned my iac and it was suprisingly clean already. Its not really a whine. It sounds just like a turkey or chicken trying to talk. (squak squeak squak real fast)
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Old 12-14-2010, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: Help! Wouldn't start this morning.

Squeeks and sqawks when cold is nothing to be alarmed about. It's just ice and condensation on the belts and pulleys.
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Old 12-14-2010, 10:42 AM
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The truck is trying to tell you it's too damn cold lol.
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Old 12-14-2010, 10:50 AM
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Get one of the plug up heaters you can put on yer truck...I think they sell it in LMC.
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Old 12-14-2010, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: Help! Wouldn't start this morning.

As I said earlier in this thread, an engine block heater is not going to fix or hid anything. It will just waste electricity.
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Old 12-14-2010, 12:43 PM
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Ok just talked to the ford dealership. They said try replacing the crank position sensor. They also told me that is what runs the tach so if it fixes that it's worth it just to have my tach. My egr is all hooked up again(I'll test the egr this weekend with my voltmeter.) Going to autozone tonight to see what codes it's throwing. As far as the fuel pressure they said it wasnt normal for it to drop that fast but it's probably not my problem.
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Old 12-15-2010, 06:48 AM
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Well nobody reads codes on pre 95 rangers around here so I guess I am going to buy one tonight if my truck will get me there. It wouldnt start this morning. It's only 3 degrees colder than yesterday but I'm really leaning towards a bad crank position sensor. I think spark is my issue because it wouldn't start with starting fluid. If I was getting any spark at all I would think it would at least try to start with that. I think if I had bad coils or plugs it would run rough all the time. My problem is related to cold weather. But other than that it seems to be random so I'm thinking sensor. When the truck runs it runs good dns idles good so I don't think it's iac or egr.
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:09 PM
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Well not much luck. Had to order a ckp and should be in by Thursday. I did manage to check the codes with the engine on and engine off key on. Once with the engine off i got the code for the egr( that's because it was stored in the memory from when I had it unplugged. I also got 224. The Internet and autozone say primary ignition circuit fault and the Haynes manual says stout system. I'm not sure what this code means but I'm guessing my ckp could have something to do with it. I cleared the codes and did an engine on test and after I finally got
The steering, brakes, and goose test right I got the code 111 for system normal. So whenever it is warm my everything is working. The weird thing is I would think I should throw a code for my tach not working. I'll change the ckp and see why that does in case anybody is interested.
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Old 12-27-2010, 12:35 PM
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Took all day Sunday to get the old sensor off so I didn't get a new one on. The junk Haynes manual just said take off the alternator and lower rad. Hose. I didn't really have to do either. So I took off the harmonic balancer, AC, timing belt, and power steering pump. That's about the worst way to run wires for a sensor I've ever seen.
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