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Old 07-05-2010, 04:34 PM
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Even though I'm new here, I can't tell you how many times I've listened to people gloat about fuel economy, and every, EVERY time I've personally called someone to the mat, they were getting the same averages as anyone else. (had to teach them basic math).

I suppose I should get my "feet wet" here first, but I remember being part of the Chevy 2500HD diesel forums, and how some would boast about getting 25 mpgs, towing goose-necks and 5th wheels (14,000lbs, etc.,) . It's just not physically possible given the engineering that goes in to these vehicles, no matter what they put on 'after market'.

I am getting average 14mpg's out of my current Ranger, and this is 50/50 hwy/city. I would like to think I can improve that, with some repairs, and tune-up mods.
Welcome to the thread!
Not to gloat, but I just checked my second tank. 31 mpg, (this is combo Hwy/city) and yes I know the math. I have a stock 2008 4cyl with a 5spd. Haven't even checked the tire pressure yet. This is a new truck for me. I'm really liken the FE.
What engine trans combo are you runnin?

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Old 07-05-2010, 09:41 PM
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I hate all of you 30+ MPGers.
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Old 07-06-2010, 06:33 PM
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I hate all of you 30+ MPGers.
Hey! It's all about choices.

We choose to drive the meek 4 cyl cuz it's more miles on a gallon.
We choose to shift through the gears even though it's a pain in the butt for the same reason.
We choose to drive like little old ladies out for a Sunday drive, and don't give a rat's a__ about the guy on our bumpers cuz he ain't paying for our gas.
We choose to arrive a little late for the party, knowing that the party can't start till we get there.
We choose to test ourselves against ourselves to motivate ourselves to improve our driving techniques, so we can exult in our achievement and exhort each other to even greater efficiency.

Others..... they are free to choose otherwise.
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Old 07-07-2010, 08:28 AM
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New here also, but I have to tell you it's true. I got my new Ranger on Thursday. On Friday I topped it off and went 210 mi., mostly Interstate and open road, went through a few towns. I stopped and topped off with 6.8 gallons, packed it in.. Thats 30.88 MPG.

Yes it's only one tank, an average over several tanks is more exact. I just wanted to see what it got on highway driving. Will know better how much of a hit the mileage takes with a lot of stop and go real soon.
I can't lie! I'm jealous! Envious, ..something! That's really great MPG's.
I was hoping to somehow get to 20. I'm in So Cal, and have heard that fuel formulations are different, and may have some effect on mileage. I wonder how much truth there is to that?

In either case, yes, I do want the bridges there when I get to them, so I will try to behave!
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Old 07-07-2010, 09:01 AM
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Welcome to the thread!
Not to gloat, but I just checked my second tank. 31 mpg, (this is combo Hwy/city) and yes I know the math. I have a stock 2008 4cyl with a 5spd. Haven't even checked the tire pressure yet. This is a new truck for me. I'm really liken the FE.
What engine trans combo are you runnin?
Thanks! First I want to apologize to whomever I insulted about the "math" comment. It wasn't meant in that context but I can see how it looked after reading it. We travel with a large group to the desert and there is always "feather puffing" as relates to rigs, and setups. So, of course there is a lot of banter as well!

Moving on, I have my son's 2000 Ranger with 2.5, 5-speed. He replaced the tires with 31x10.50, on 15" stock wheels. I'm sure this has cost some serious MPG's as well. Engine has 170k miles, and is tired it seems. Even with 91 octane, I get spark ping when accelerating or keeping with traffic on the highway. It did pass smog here, so I assume it is in relative tune.

Nevertheless, I'm getting around 14, and I'm sure the tires, and miles are a factor.

I'm hoping to learn enough, besides driving techniques, to get some extra miles out of it. ..

Thanks!
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Old 07-07-2010, 01:47 PM
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My 2.5 lowered with stock size tires and 102k on the clock only gets me about 26mpg mixed. Its got a good tune up and runs great, but the lima motors just don't have the efficiency of the later duratech engines. All these guys getting 30+ mpgs are mostly d-tech guys. With my 05 d-tech 2.3 I get 27-29mpg flogging on it with a 93 octane performance tune, and a best of 32mpg on the highway at 75 or so.
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Old 07-07-2010, 02:07 PM
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Most of these guys posting 30+ mpgs are D-tech drivers. The Lima motor just can't match the efficiency of the newer DOHC variable intake motors. My '98 2.5 has a good tune up, runs strong, and gets me about 26mpg highway. I'm lowered with stock size tires. My '05 D-tech 2.3, lowered with stock size tires, being flogged on with a 93 octane performance tune, gets 27-29 mpg, and a best of 32mpg on the highway at around 75 or so. The d-tech also makes alot more power while doing it, a great testament to just how efficient these motors are. So don't feel bad, you have an engine based on 35 year old technology.
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Old 07-08-2010, 08:35 PM
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Hey! It's all about choices.

We choose to drive the meek 4 cyl cuz it's more miles on a gallon.
We choose to shift through the gears even though it's a pain in the butt for the same reason.
We choose to drive like little old ladies out for a Sunday drive, and don't give a rat's a__ about the guy on our bumpers cuz he ain't paying for our gas.
We choose to arrive a little late for the party, knowing that the party can't start till we get there.
We choose to test ourselves against ourselves to motivate ourselves to improve our driving techniques, so we can exult in our achievement and exhort each other to even greater efficiency.

Others..... they are free to choose otherwise.
My Reg Cab ranger is a 2007 and has the 2.3 Dura, although it does have the suckamatic. The past 4 tanks I have gotten 20 mpg. Oh, and it only has 15k miles.
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Old 07-08-2010, 11:26 PM
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The past couple of tanks I got 20.8 and 20.9. I think the high gear ratio axle I have is killing me some since I have to down shift a lot for the hills here in south western PA. I'm sure the high boy cap doesn't help any either. Since the engine in the rig is one from a junk yard, a couple of tank of fuel system cleaner might help out some but I think getting a 3.73:1 rear axle will help me out better once I get around to buying one. My hopes are to keep it in 5th gear while on the highway. This 3.45:1 rear axle just isn't cutting it.
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Old 07-09-2010, 04:07 AM
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My Reg Cab ranger is a 2007 and has the 2.3 Dura, although it does have the suckamatic. The past 4 tanks I have gotten 20 mpg. Oh, and it only has 15k miles.
Auto may kill it some what, but the fast freeway does kill it the most. I know if I take mine on the freeway (70mph) mine drops big time, about 22mpg. if I take the highway (55-58mph) then I can get close to 30mpg
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Old 07-09-2010, 06:50 AM
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Earlier in this thread I posted my first tank(new truck) mileage was 30.88 MPG(figured by hand)mostly highway. This last tank, mostly suburban type stop and go, was 24.6 mpg and yeah, the A/C is going all the time.

The gearing is right; 2500 rpm at 70mph is less than most other 4 cyl. combinations I have driven. My goal was to get the most goodies(XLT) with the best mileage.

What most don't realize is that an automatic transmission is a big hydraulic pump that is running all the time you are driving. On large displacement engines this might not make a big difference, but on a small 4 cyl. it can make itself more apparent(dependent on gearing). Apples to apples, the stick does not have this extra work to do.(Did mechanic work for many years building auto transmissions)

The last thing to check is towing. Where I go is 105mi one way. I know what I got with last trucks, we'll see..........
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Old 07-09-2010, 11:06 AM
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Auto may kill it some what, but the fast freeway does kill it the most. I know if I take mine on the freeway (70mph) mine drops big time, about 22mpg. if I take the highway (55-58mph) then I can get close to 30mpg
I know the auto is hurting me a lot for sure. Also, the heat index is like +100 so the A/C is running nearly every time I'm in the car. I don't really do a like of highway driving, maybe only 10-15 percent of all my driving is, but I never take the car past 70 - 75. And around town the truck only sees 1.75 - 2.75k RPMs so I practically baby the thing.
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Old 07-09-2010, 01:03 PM
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This weather is a killer. Performance decreases as intake air temperature increases. With the heat wave and the AC load combined, even my 4.0 feels like i'm dragging a grand piano.
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Old 07-09-2010, 06:39 PM
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Yeah, running the ac, I'm only getting around 20mpg with my 2.5. The D-tech would still get 24 on the highway at 70 with the ac on.
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Old 07-09-2010, 09:51 PM
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I'm starting to regret not getting a stick with all these 30 mpg numbers flying around. I could've saved about 1k on my purchase too .
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