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Old 04-27-2011, 01:59 PM
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The Ranger doesn't weight 6000 pounds; it has a curb weight around 3,060 iirc. Its GVW might be 6000 pounds, but the truck is only half that.

It is true about the weight though; hence why I can get 28 mpg in a 5.7L V8 car weighing 3400 pounds
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Old 04-27-2011, 02:46 PM
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I don't think the net will improve MPG. They kill the bubble of air which is created by the closed tailgate. If you repalced the tailgate with say a piece of solid plastic or thin wood, you would lose the heavy tailgate and keep the bubble. Though I'm not sure losing the weight of the tailgate is going to actually do anything.
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Old 04-27-2011, 02:49 PM
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I believe Mythbusters also tested the net, but I don't recall the results. I'd have to agree with Fire though, I think a net will just make more turbulence and ruin the bubble in the bed
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Old 04-27-2011, 10:12 PM
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The Ranger doesn't weight 6000 pounds; it has a curb weight around 3,060 iirc. Its GVW might be 6000 pounds, but the truck is only half that.

It is true about the weight though; hence why I can get 28 mpg in a 5.7L V8 car weighing 3400 pounds
now this, i know is true, because my dad gets 29 in his 98 Trans Am, and his has full exhaust (texas speed and performance headers, flowmasters, off road cat) a 2000 ls1 intake, and his own tune. ran 12.49 at 114 mph witha spec stage 2 clutch in it.

but yes, weight will make a huge difference. get some light, aluminum rims, street tires, CAI MIGHT help, like i said, MIGHT. like we say in drag racing, every 100 pounds you lose out of your car, you gain .01 (one tenth) of a second. now thats pretty critical if you drag racing. so say you yourself lost 100 lbs, take the a/c out of your truck, possibly power steering, power brakes, and all the other little sissy girl choices, and that makes your truck's motor have that much less stress on it. if you need to, pull those back seats out, if you get really serious, replace all the glass for plexi glass. take out the carpet. get a tune, take the spare out, take the hitch off, take the tool box out (if you have one), ditch the tailgate (maybe), and use your cruise control!!! but i would look into getting one of those gauges and a tune, that will help you out quite a bit!
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Old 04-28-2011, 06:24 AM
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The only reason I feel that the no tailgate or mesh tailgate worked on mythbusters was because they were testing how much fuel the truck used, not the aerodynamics or anything. Therefore, the weight likely played a huge factor in the results they had.

SEMA tested the aerodynamics of all the choices, and here are the results
http://www.sema.org/ltaa/do-tonneau-...ve-gas-mileage

Which seem to be contradicting the Mythbusters results.

Correction:
SEMA did not perform the test, here is the test report
http://classic-web.archive.org/web/2...affner/did.htm
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Old 04-28-2011, 06:35 AM
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Thanks everyone. I'm trying to do as much as I can without removing the functionality of the truck. The things I have mentioned would have minimal impact on the looks or functionality... but also seem to have the least impact on mpg.

I'm a member of ecomodders.com, a group that's devoted to high gas mileage. They are extremists, doing things I'll never consider. Still, I've picked up a few small ideas.

Since you guys were talking about toppers tho, this design has proven results on their site... (ugly as heck, but it works)
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...d-cap-583.html
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Old 04-28-2011, 01:41 PM
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weight won't affect a cars fuel consumption at a steady speed; Mythbusters actually explained that quite well in the clean vs dirty car myth.
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Old 04-28-2011, 02:03 PM
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Just DGAF it and put 35s on
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Old 04-28-2011, 03:39 PM
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Trade it in an a car with better fuel economy like our government officials want everybody who gets bad gas mileage to do. Because that makes a lot more sense if you try not to think about it.
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:02 PM
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Anyone done active grill shutters on a Ranger before? I'd like to build them for my truck. Improve aerodynamics with no change in looks
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Old 04-29-2011, 12:32 AM
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now this, i know is true, because my dad gets 29 in his 98 Trans Am, and his has full exhaust (texas speed and performance headers, flowmasters, off road cat) a 2000 ls1 intake, and his own tune. ran 12.49 at 114 mph witha spec stage 2 clutch in it.

but yes, weight will make a huge difference. get some light, aluminum rims, street tires, CAI MIGHT help, like i said, MIGHT. like we say in drag racing, every 100 pounds you lose out of your car, you gain .01 (one tenth) of a second. now thats pretty critical if you drag racing. so say you yourself lost 100 lbs, take the a/c out of your truck, possibly power steering, power brakes, and all the other little sissy girl choices, and that makes your truck's motor have that much less stress on it. if you need to, pull those back seats out, if you get really serious, replace all the glass for plexi glass. take out the carpet. get a tune, take the spare out, take the hitch off, take the tool box out (if you have one), ditch the tailgate (maybe), and use your cruise control!!! but i would look into getting one of those gauges and a tune, that will help you out quite a bit!
Yep, that is the gross weight. Each Ranger is different though. Mine being an 2004 Edge has a curb weight of right at 4,000 lbs.

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Low overall vehicle weight combined with a stiff frame and a decent powered engine equals fun and pretty good fuel economy. Your areo dynamics will also play a factor.
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:13 AM
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weight won't affect a cars fuel consumption at a steady speed; Mythbusters actually explained that quite well in the clean vs dirty car myth.
So, aerodynamics aside, driving with 1000 pounds of rocks in the bed uses the same amount of gas as having an empty bed, so long as I stay on the highway?
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:29 AM
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Push a lawn cart empty down your driveway. Fill it with rocks and push it back. See if you think it takes the same amount of energy to keep it moving when full of rocks. I haven't seen that episode of mythbusters but something isn't right about that claim. It's impossible to for the same amount of energy to keep a heavier load in motion at the same speed.
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:33 AM
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Physics! haha.

Check your injectors, make sure they are clean. If some are real dirty or clogged it can cause your o2 sensors to try and overcompensate for that bank and run rich, throwing gas out your tailpipe..
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Old 04-29-2011, 11:54 AM
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Push a lawn cart empty down your driveway. Fill it with rocks and push it back. See if you think it takes the same amount of energy to keep it moving when full of rocks. I haven't seen that episode of mythbusters but something isn't right about that claim. It's impossible to for the same amount of energy to keep a heavier load in motion at the same speed.
I sincerely believe that your analogy of rocks in a shopping cart makes sense, but It does take more energy to bring it up to speed and to stop but for it to maintain its speed uses the same energy as empty. but that would be on an always flat surface (unlikely) Since their are always uphills and occurrences where you need to slow down and pick up speed, its will indeed require more energy. (thats my opinion and not fact)
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