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Old 03-27-2011, 05:52 PM
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does anybody have headers on their ranger? i have a 01 xlt that i want to put some on. looking for pros and cons and good brands to go with and any input would be awesome. thanks
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Old 03-27-2011, 06:43 PM
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pros?:
improved hp
improved fuel economy
improved sound
rust prevention (if you get ceramic coated)

cons?:
cost
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Old 03-27-2011, 08:13 PM
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i figured there wouldn't be much in the cons department lol. just wondering if there was anybody out there who knows something i dont but should. thanks matt
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Old 03-27-2011, 08:23 PM
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Whatever you do, do NOT use the supplied gaskets!!! My headman headers came with some type of fiber or paper gasket, they burned up in a couple months. Just use factory exhaust manifold gaskets. They work just fine and wont burn up. Another thing to consider is using Stainless Steel bolts. Into the block and on the Y-pipe. It seems that the collectors will loosen up every three months, nature of the beast I guess, and having SS will save you a lot of headach!
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Old 03-27-2011, 08:40 PM
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^very true on the gaskets. The ones they give you with the headers are often garbage. I went with some steel OEM ones for my t/a. If you have the option of ceramic coated headers, definately spend the extra cash on them. Ceramic coating will hold the heat in the primaries better and resist rust much better than painted ones.
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Old 03-28-2011, 12:33 PM
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how will stainless steel header hold up as far as rust goes?
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they will do ok. Stainless is pretty good at keeping heat in and preventing rust too, but I prefer ceramic coated headers. Most sets of ceramic caoted ones I have seen look better and outlast any stainless ones I see.
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Old 03-28-2011, 05:31 PM
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hmm.. alright. thanks for that. any brands yu would recommend?
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Old 03-28-2011, 06:29 PM
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I'm not too familiar with what brands make headers for the Ranger, but here are the brands I know of from fbodies that I would trust: BBK, ARH (American Racing), TSP, Kooks, SLP and even Pacesetters are good in most applications.
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i have ceramic coated JBA headers on my 4.0. there are really nice headers with nice thick flanges and they came with good gaskets. i installed mine in 2006 and have NEVER had a leak and with the ceramic coating they still look almost new. that being said, they arent worth the price i payed for them. although my tunes were written to accommodate them i still wish i hadnt spent the $500 on them because the gains i noticed werent worth the price i payed. unless the price has come down ALOT or you plan on getting a tuner later so you can have so tunes written to take advantage of them i say save your money. just my 2 penny's.
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If you got a whole bunch of skinny garden hose and you replace a few feet of it with great big hose will you get a lot more water? No. After building millions and millions of cars and trucks for over a hundred years don't you suppose Ford has a pretty good idea how to size the induction/exhaust system from one end to the other?

Now if you want to increase the flow you start with the air intake, throttle body, intake manifold, intake valves, exhaust valves, cam, then headers, then exhaust. The parts aren't available because nobody in their right mind would spend that $$$ on a dog like a Ranger. A 350 Chevy, a 351 Ford, yes. Ranger, no.



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alright man jee whiz
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If you got a whole bunch of skinny garden hose and you replace a few feet of it with great big hose will you get a lot more water? No. After building millions and millions of cars and trucks for over a hundred years don't you suppose Ford has a pretty good idea how to size the induction/exhaust system from one end to the other?

Now if you want to increase the flow you start with the air intake, throttle body, intake manifold, intake valves, exhaust valves, cam, then headers, then exhaust. The parts aren't available because nobody in their right mind would spend that $$$ on a dog like a Ranger. A 350 Chevy, a 351 Ford, yes. Ranger, no.



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I have to respectfully disagree, FORD is not going to build the engine and tune like a racecar, there is room for improvement. They build them to epa specs. I can personally attest to intake and headers adding more power. Your not going to gain some 50 hp with it, but it will add. Besides that, they sound mean as F*CK!!!
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I have to respectfully disagree, FORD is not going to build the engine and tune like a racecar, there is room for improvement. They build them to epa specs. I can personally attest to intake and headers adding more power. Your not going to gain some 50 hp with it, but it will add. Besides that, they sound mean as F*CK!!!
1. Ford certainly can (and does) build engines like a race car.
2. They build the 425 HP Mustang engine to EPA specs.
3. My comments were meant to provide information about the waste of money in improving only one of a whole series of factors that get mass flow through an engine to generate power.
4. An expert with proven credentials can "attest" to something and have it mean something. The rest of us need to provide some detail (dyno numbers, ET slips) to be credible.
5. A most important factor of human nature dictates that if I drop several hundred bucks on performance parts that I will "FEEL THE IMPROVEMENT" whether there is any or not.
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